The thing that pisses me off the most about game pirates...

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d21lewis said:

vlad321 said:

 

I'm sorry. Pirates don't get any money for their games. Used game people do. You sell your game, the money you made off that sale belongs to the dev, not to you. At least pirates don't profit on other's back. Used gamers are FAR more ignorant, selfish, close-minded (LAWL at calling pirates close-minded, seriously?) and refuse to believe what they are doing.

I guess YOU aren't worht my time, you are just a two-faced hypocrite.

Why I'm even getting involved in this is a mystery to me but dude:  You do profit.  You gain a $60 game for free.  I have to come up with $60!  Even though the used game company is making money selling a used game, they're running a legitimate business.  And even if they weren't, how does it make it okay for you to steal because they sell something?

Pirates contribute nothing to the gaming industry: fact. They don't help developers, publishers or retailers.
Used game market does help: Firstly, it gives profit to the retailers. Without the used game market, many retailers would find it extremely hard to turn a profit. The used game market allows them to, keeping them in business, which aids in the sales of new games. Secondly, if as an end user, I worry that my $60 might be poorly spent, I'm far more inclined to buy the game knowing that I can get $40 back if I don't like it. If I wasn't able to get $40 back, I may not buy the game. Seeing as I will get $40 back, I do buy the game new. Therefore, as a result of the used game market, there is an extra new sale of the game. Thirdly, unlike with pirating, used games have to be purchased new before they are sold used. Via piracy, a single copy of the game can spread to millions of people (theoretically). Via the used game market, if only one copy of the game is ever sold, only one copy can be in circulation.

If someone buys a Ferrari, should we all be able to leech it off them (piracy) equalling 1000000s of Ferraris from a single purchase, or should we have to share it around, 1-by-1 (used market), meaning there would only be 1 Ferrari in circulation from a single purchase. The reason that the used game market doesn't destroy the industry is because people all want the game simultaneously, causing massive sales. Piracy, on the other hand, could give everyone the same game from a single purchase. Saying that the used game market is as bad as (or worse than) piracy is just plain false. Vlad321, you must be absolutely delusional.

@d21lewis: Sorry for quoting your post, when it was actually Vlad321 I wanted to address. I agree with your points though, piracy is far, far, far worse than used games could ever be.