arbitor365 said:
You don’t believe me about the bias of the majority of these reviewers. Ok. Lets take a look at a few.
Heres a nice one http://www.gamecritics.com/review/legendragoon/main.php
in this review we see an obvious FFVII fanboy. Now, what leads me to assume he is a fanboy? Well, the fact he says the word “FFVII” 8 times in his review is a subtle clue. he makes the typical fanboy claim that LOD is a ripoff of FFVII. What are some of his prime arguments? Lets take a look at ben’s arguments
“Well, here I am writing my review, and all I can think about is its similarity to FF7, and how stale and unoriginal the whole experience is. This game is such a rip-off of Square's FF7 that I can't believe Sony hasn't been taken to court for copyright infringement.”
Well lets see here. Lets take a look at the backstories of both games.
FFVII takes place in a grungy futuristic sci fi setting. In long ago times, jenova came to earth to destroy it but shinra took control of her power and used it for their benefit. shinra, is using its factories to literally suck the life out of the planet and uses superhuman “soldiers” injected with jenova cells to do their bidding. A small group of rebels code named “avalanche” need to take the company down to save the planet.
Lets look at legend of dragoon’s backstory. It takes place in a midevil/renaissance period in an unknown. In the beginning this world was empty, until the god, named Soa, bestowed a seed upon the earth. It grew into a divine tree from which all life originated. The two dominant races, the winglys and the humans were at odds with each other. the winglys dominated the human race and even the gods themselves. The human emperor diaz called upon the dragoons (human incarnates of dragons) to free the empire. Fighting along side their dragons, the dragoons destroyed the winglys and freed the world but they all perished until their future descendants would use their powers again to bring balance to the world.
Well…………….. the storylines are nothing alike, but im game Ben. Show me what you got.
“Here we go again with another case of "here we go again." Remember Cloud and Tifa from FF7? They've both gone to video game heaven and have been reincarnated as Dart and Shana in Dragoon.”
Yes….. even though their characters have no similarities to each other, they are a ripoff because they a male and female. as we all know FFVII was the first video game in history to have a love interest right? it was the first to have a male and female main character right? yeah, who cares if the character’s personalities and looks are nothing alike! I mean, luke skywalker, and batman…. Theyre both exactly the same because they’re both main characters and they’re both males. I just love logic don’t you!?!
“Maybe it's a blessing in disguise. Dragoon's definition of love spares us from reading more of its poorly translated dialogue, once again proving that the genre still hasn't evolved past Final Fantasy II is some respects.”
Yes, because, four or five grammatical errors in a 4 disk, 50 + hour game is a real bangup job wouldn’t you say?
“The characters use the word "bastard" a lot, and there's even a Bastard Sword! I guess the idea of an illegitimate sword is a new one, or does it mean that only bastards can use the sword? That would make Dart the first bastard hero in videogames wouldn't it? Either way, it's the extent to which Dragoon breaks new ground.”
Yes, im sure it has nothing to do with the french term for a longsword in the late renaissance period. Noooo.
“But let's not focus solely on the one-dimensional characters and bad writing when there are so many other aspects of Dragoon that follow proven RPG conventions. How about the look of the game, which mirrors FF7 in practically every way imaginable?”
Yes because this,
is just like this
Who cares about setting, art style or themes?! As long as it uses simlar graphic technology, its a complete ripoff.
“The graphics are made up of pre-rendered, still images—on top of which the polygonal characters move about. Of course, even when your party grows to as many as six characters, you only see the main character (Dart) walking around”
That is just bullshit!! What kind of shitty game would have something like that??
oh……… ouch
“And even though the whole group always travels together, only three of them can fight at once. I guess if you could control more than that during a battle, the game wouldn't be like FF7 anymore, and we can't have that can we?”
Yeah! Even though having 3 party members has been a staple in RPGs since the SNES age, Dragoon is ripping off FFVII. Why? Because you said so that’s why! Youre a professional game reviewer!! YOUR WORD IS LAW!!!!
“The battles take place in 3-D, and are randomly—annoyingly—triggered.”
That is terrible!! What kind of RPG would have something like that??
well that and about every RPG ever made.
“Afterwards, we get a shot of the good guys celebrating their victory by twirling their weapons in the air to triumphant music. In case you're wondering, we experienced the exact same scenario in FF7. If you think you'll get tired of sitting through that after a while, run for the hills, because in Dragoon battles are a constant, and they follow the same format every time.”
Yes!! because celebrating after battles is a trait copyrighted to FFVII! What a strange coincidence that characters have been doing this in every RPG since the NES. Whatever! It doesn’t matter!! Dragoon had no right to utilize their 3D graphic animations. They should have had their characters sitting there, completely frozen with monotone music!! What were they thinking?!!?
“I should mention that some very, very minor changes were made in the process of ripping off FF7, probably so Sony can say their game is just different enough to justify its existence. Limit Breaks have been replaced in Dragoon by Additions, which require”
Yes, because even though these moves look nothing the same and have none of the same controls, it is a ripofff!!!! As we all know FFVII was the first and should be the only RPG to feature special moves!! I mean….. wow!! How can they stoop so low as to have special moves in their game!! They should be taken to fucking court!!!!!!
“timely button presses during battle to execute more powerful attacks. It's really just a cheap attempt at creating more interest in the boring combat sequences”
psh!! Trying introduce skill and innovation into a game! What were they thinking!!!!! These must be the worst game designers ever
“We've seen the word "dragoon" used in other RPGs.”
Yeah! Like the one……………… the one with the………… you know…. The RPG…….. the one with dragoons……………. that no one can think of …… lets continue
“Dragoon is four discs full of contrived storytelling, repetitious action and RPG clichés”
I agree any RPG that possesses the basic fundamentals of the genre is cliché and unoriginal!!!! As for repetitious action I totally agree!!! Any RPGs with repetitious action should be burned!!
ok, FFVII. Go away now.
So theres your typical legend of dragoon reviewer. Full of bias, fallacies and mindless comparisons to FFVII. this is common. in fact, there are even more blatently bias reviews like this. Why don’t we take a look at IGN?
http://psx.ign.com/articles/163/163238p1.html
lets look at their reasoning to give LOD a 7/10
5.5 Presentation
It got a severely sub-par rating in presentation. that is absurd. it got a pathetic score for what? Because the translation inst good? Are you shitting me? There were 2 or 3 translation errors in the whole game and the rest was beautifully translated and somehow it is substandard? Must I remind IGN all the awkward translations in FFVII?? Even if it was a big deal, is it worth knocking it down a bunch of stars?? Their reasoning is missing something. “REASONS.” The game is presented in an original, stunning majestic and regal manner. It is straightforward and its well polished. The world is believable, yet stylish. It is gritty, yet colorful. The story is well played out and everything has cohersion. So allow me to correct you IGN.
It gets at least a 9/10 for presentation
9.0 Graphics
I know to the average person this wouldn’t seem like a big deal, but lets stop for a second and think about this. Legend of dragoon did not get a 10/10 graphically. Why not? Whats holding it back? It had, by far, the best graphics of any PS1 game. That is a fact. Nothing surpassed it. It was the best looking game of its time and console. The fact that they fail to recognize it here, just shows that they are biased against it.
Graphics 10/10 (it deserves no less)
7.5 Sound
What is he even talking about??? The dub? You mean the cutscenes? First of all, this was one of the first RPGs to have voices in cutscenes. It sounds great and the acting isn’t bad. How is that an issue? Second of all, even if the FMVs were torturous, there aren’t that many of them, so it wouldn’t be a constant issue. The music is astounding and it contrasts and melds with the environments in a unique and powerful way. Allow me to correct you again IGN
Sound, at least a 9/10
6.0 Gameplay
That is just a plain lie. There nothing opinionated about it. The addition system is not that hard. I was 8 years old when I first played LOD and even back then, the addition system was not hard at all. So don’t sit there and fucking tell me that it is too hard for the average gamer. And to give it a sub-par rating for anything difficulty related is absurd in its own right. the addition system was entertaining, and innovative. Addressing it like a problem is stupefyingly moronic. How the fuck do you live with yourself IGN? The gameplay involving additions, magic spells and dragoon attacks all involved some kind of skill and precision. It actually took you out of your comfort zone and kept the game invigorating. It was a hell of a lot less repetitive and boring than FFVII.
Gameplay, at least an 9/10
IGN is just plain wrong. That’s all there is to it. They are completely wrong about this game. Their reasons are not valid (an example would be their complaint about the difficulty). They nit pick at things that aren’t even issues and they simply make stuff up. Im sure you don’t know what im talking about because you didn’t play LOD but im serious, all the negative reviews are the same. Bias, illogical and inaccurate. I have just scratched the surface of this problem. The fact is, there is no valid reason to hate legend of dragoon. Everything about it is perfect. Someone may not care for the style but they have to admit it’s a great game. But you see, people don’t want to admit it. So they make reviews like these saying “uhhhh its too hard” or “uuhh the translation is bad.” Its pathetic. This is what FFVII created. Stuck up, pretentious, fanboys that lash out at games that try to compete with their beloved game. Do you want more evidence that these reviewers are liars and fanboys, because I could look up more if you want. |
You know, I dont really care about LOD, I was only talking about music and the fact that you assume your oppinion is better than others, whatever you wrote there besides the sound part I didnt read it.
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