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ultima on 20 December 2009
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mrstickball said:
ultima said:
mrstickball said:
What about the fact Obama is spending it on war AND job development that has gone nowhere? At least Bush spent it on one thing.

You can't try to justify Obama's idiocy by using Bushes idiocy as justification. Neither were right. The only difference is that Obama is spending far, far more.

Bush left Obama with a lot of crap on his plate. I mean there are 2 wars you can't just pull out of immediately and then there's the screwed up economy. I don't think it's fair to blame Obama for spending more...
  1. Popular opinion on both wars is very low. Obama was elected as being very left of center when it came to the wars, yet we have not pulled out. As commander in chief, he does have the lattitude to authorize these kinds of things.
  2. Just because you have a screwed up economy doesn't mean you have to spend money. Look at the trillion dollars the government spent - both under Bush and Obama. What has it done for us? Unemployment is above their (Obama's team, not Bushes) projections even if we spent nothing at all. 
  3. Stop using Bush as a scapegoat. Obama is almost on his second year now. Obama passed $800 billion in stimulus and it got us nothing. Obama made a ton of promises that have got us nothing thus far. How many years into Obama's presidency can you stop blaming Bush? 1 year? 2 years? 5 years?
  4. If Obamas spending was justified, why is it that we're having to have another $200 billion jobs bill to get jobs back on track? Why wasn't $800 billion enough to 'fix' the economy? Do you realize that is more than $3,000 spent for every man, woman and child in the US and we still have worse unemployment now than we were projected to?
  1. It would be wrong to just pull out of these wars all of a sudden, without ensuring that there's peace and order.
  2. How do you know that what they're doing is not helping the economy? And I don't understand the bolded sentence, I'd appreciate it if you could re-word it.
  3. I'm sorry, but war and bad economy are long term, and they were caused while Bush was the president. If he's not to blame, then who is? As for the stimulus getting you nothing, how do you know it's got you nothing? How do you know that it wouldn't have been a lot worse right now if it weren't for that?
  4. Well, I'm not an economist, and can't explain to you why unemployment is higher than projected. But the guys that propose this stuff are and they probably know what they're talking about. Their plans aren't guaranteed to work. It seems like you think (or would like to think) that they just flush the money down a huge toilet somewhere.