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I agree to an extent. Core games pretty much sell themselves, but Microsoft is fooling themselves it they think anyone considers Natal a hardcore platform. Natal is basically a Wii add-on for the 360 and most 360 players interested in that kind of stuff already have a Wii. Most hardcore gamers will simply ask "what is the point of messing up my gaming trying to incorporate a new gimmick when a controller offers me far better, and not to mention more precise, control?" Microsoft is going to have a hell of a time trying to sell Natal. Wii is THE casual console, built from the ground up to appeal to that crowd. Microsoft will have to fight tooth and nail against the Wii to market their add-on to people who want a simple straight forward console for their casual games. You would be hard pressed to find a single person who hasn't heard of the wii, even if they aren't interested in gaming.