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JaggedSac on 16 December 2009
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Senlis said:
Mendicate Bias said:

I can watch that video and see that it takes skill and admit it takes skill. However I can also see that the video I linked to also has players with immense skill but you can't. You can not for whatever reason see that the skill sets required for a 4v4 game with different game mechanics is just as great as for your 1v1. Again like all our previous arguments this boils down to a matter of opinion and were not going to change each others views so I'm done.

I don't agree with Vlad on many things, except for this.  It is true that when everyone is playing using the same controls, it really doesn't matter since everyone is on a level playing field.  However, every time I am forced to play a game on a joystick, I think that it just be better on mouse + keyboard.  This is why:

Joysticks are based on an velocity type system.  In other words, the further you push the stick, the faster the screen moves.  To make a precise move, you have to accelerate the joystick until you have achieved sufficient velocity to reach the position in time (before you get shot) and then you have to release the joystick at just the right time to aim where you want to.  That is a lot to deal with in a heavy fire-fight.  How fast should you turn?  If you turn to fast, you won't aim where you want to.  If you aim too slow, you will get shot too much before your crosshairs meet the enemy.

Mouse and Keyboard is based on a positional type system.  You move the mouse, which corresponds directly to movement on the screen.  Simple, and more efficient use of your braincells.

Does simpler and easier mean more noobish? no.  It just means that you can get to intermediate and expert level faster using the mouse and keyboard. Can you think of any sport where a player makes it harder for himself just because it takes more skill to play that way?  No, you don't.  With the keyboard and mouse, I spend less time thinking about my turning and more time about position, cover, etc.

I think many people who claim the joystick is better are just console guys who either can't afford a gaming PC or don't want to work on them.  I won't fault them for that, but stop whining because of your choice.  Enjoy their other features like ease of use and....ease of use. 

Mendicate and I are not saying DA is better.  We are just saying they are different.  The comparison really doesn't matter at all.  Both Mendicate and I play PC FPS games and console FPS games, and enjoy both.  I grew up playing PC fps games.  I really don't see what the concern over this is about.