Do you think animal testing is right?

[Khuutra]

Slimebeast said:

Khuutra said:

That isn't racism, it's speciesism. You can't draw an analogy between our relationship with other animals and the relationship between different ethnic groups of humans unless you (A) consider animal life equivalent or (B) consider human life to be iered in terms of importance.

Regardless, it's not racism.

Well, if I say we should treat immigrants not equal to natives I am called racist, even though technically that's not correct, so I am sure you know the message I am trying to send.

And why can't I draw the analogy?

I must not believe animals to be equivalent to humans, just because I think it's wrong to kill or test on them. That's a ridiculous claim.

Why do you value other mammals so low that you allow torture and killing of them for the benefit of humans?

I don't think that I do, since immigration issues in Europe often are a racial issue. But again: in this case, you mean speciesist.

You're suggesting that I am prejudiced against animals, but that's not the case - strictly speaking. I simply think of human life as being more intrinsically valuable than the life of any other species.

You can't draw the analogy because it requires acceptance of the idea that black people are to white people as dogs are to humans, which is, uh, absurdly racist unless you think that dog life and human life are basically equivalent.

To the bolded: I don't think lowly of animals. I happen to love them quite a lot. I happen to love humans a lot more, my justification for that being that I am human, and whatever benefits my species tops my priority list. I see human life as intrinsically more valuable than the life of other animals, so trading their lives for human lives is acceptable to me.

Do you see human life as intrinsically more valuable than the lives of other animals?