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ultraslick said:
This if for the wii only owners;
You can say it is for traffic if you want, but that is only the reason why they were allowed to post what they thought.
They are not fabricating the whole thing, this is how they feel.

I read through the summary, and even with the little sny additions in the OP, it still rings true.
Ask yourselves;
Would the wii be better with graphical improvements, an online system, 3rd party development?

It doesnt matter where you place the emphasis in your gaming experience, the simple answer is yes.

And imo, the GC was worlds different. It had great visuals, and the games had an overall richer feel to them. It seems like every wii game is a demo for a game that never comes.
Sure there are a very few exceptions, but that does not make the rest of the argument void.

If you are a wii only owner and you can possibly fathom any form of your wii games that could be better than they already are, (since everything can always be better)
Then seriously do yourself a favor and get a current gen system.

I understand you dont care about this or that , and games are about having fun... I agree with that, Just know that the wii is trumped on every possible level, not just visuals.

There is a whole other world out there, of GAMES. Games with amazingly rich stories, great visuals, games that will knock your socks off. There are even smaller (wii size) games that are leagues better with the XBL marketplace, and PSN store.

As a wii owner, you must admit it... its time to evolve.

 

The problem is, we have evolved, while a large part of the gamers considering themselves "hardcore" have a very reactionnary set-of-mind...

In the last 4 years, i've readed so many examples of this that now, i just can't stand it anymore: most of the analysts, critics and fanboys out there think that their tastes are universal, but they're NOT...

Wii is certainly not a revolution, but it's an evolution, a very needed evolution in the way games are build, controlled, and enjoyed... the best Wii games have given me a lot of fun, but what's most important, i just can't go back to the "old school" controllers anymore: i find these boring and very limited... i don't force anyone to agree with me, but that's how i feel...

Now, can Wii games be even better? Of course, there's always room for improvement... but are PS360 games automatically better? No... are achievements really needed? No... is online an absolute must? No... are HD visuals that important? No... are colourful visuals a failure? No... is ultra-realism the most important factor in gaming? No... are most "mature" games really that mature? No... has the gameplay evolved in any way in most PS360 games? No... do Nintendo's games involve bad level's designs and bad controls? No...

And don't forget: if a 360 DVD has enough room for a great-looking game in HD, then the same DVD has even more room for a great-looking Wii game in SD: it's not about the hardware, it's about the efforts made, the budget concerned, and the talent involved... Wii was not supposed to be successful, Wii has never been a priority for most third parties, and we all have seen the results... for at least 3 generations, it's been the same thing all over again, anyway... but you can't blame Nintendo or the hardware itself for that situation...

And if you really can't stand Wii games, if you find they can't even qualify as "great games", then how could you enjoy ANY game of the past?

Wii is easily 3 or 4 times more powerful than PS2, so all PS2 games were a waste of time and money, and sucked very deep? If you think so, it was your time and your money, not mines...  :)

Now, if only most "hardcore" gamers could just understand that there's no point in having three consoles with the exact same features and the exact same library, then we'd start to see an "evolution": PS3 and X360 are already nearly the same consoles, with only a handful of exclusive games to differentiate themselves, and the exact same potential userbase of 30-50 millions of people in mind: and you want Wii to be just the same? What would it bring on the table?

The problem is, the games you may like have no appeal to a vast majority of the world's population, the controllers you may like have no appeal to the people who didn't play for a long time, or even haven't touched a console in their life, and the consoles you may like have no games that most people would like for their kids, or for themselves... for me? Well, yes, maybe 5 to 10 games... but not more...really...

So in the end, why is it so hard to respect the people who don't share your tastes, and don't have the same needs and likings? Gaming is supposed to be for everyone, and not for a self-proclaimed "gaming elit" so full of itself...

Nintendo got it, before anyone else in the industry even thought about it... and that was their key to success...

Now, you're right, in some ways anyway: most Wii games are failures, and only the best Wii games are worth mentionning... but it has always been the same on any past console: only the best games are remembered, and will usually keep "evolving" in future sequels, on some "improved" hardware... you just don't see how improvement can't mean "ultra-realistic graphics", instead of "ultra-intuitive controls": but then, it's your problem... not mine, or ours...  :)



 

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