Is MS gonna include multiplayer in Silver accounts?

[Alby_da_Wolf]

daroamer said:

Alby_da_Wolf said:

I perfectly know how many cows MS happily milks with Gold, but as Greenberg said they'll increase value for money AND they'll keep XB360 $100 cheaper, and paying an additional $50/yr fee what others offer for free would deny both points, I won't question his word, particularly as he'll have to keep it if he want to lift again sales.

Edit @CaptDS93: maybe in USA, but last time I checked, in Europe the best price you can find for Live Gold is full price.

I'm not sure if you're trolling with this or not but you're wrong on both counts:

1 - Increasing value for money means adding features for the same amount of money, it doesn't mean making something that used to cost money free

2 - Being $100 cheaper means being cheaper at retail, it's obvious that's what he's referring to.  All this "well you have to pay for live so it's not REALLY $200" is just fanboy rhetoric.  If you don't want to play online then you don't have to pay for live so what he is saying is absolutely true. 

The two things you're using to try to draw a conclusion are not really related.

1. Giving basic online multi for free is just my suggestion for a sensible way to increase value for money.

2. What he say is true only under a necessary condition (and both in maths and logic you can't omit them in a theorem, if he says a truth we are talking about logic): that the user doesn't want online multi. If users want only the free basic online multi offered by PC and competing consoles, MS force them to pay also extra Gold services to have it, this proves wrong what Greenberg says in every case excluded when the aforementioned necessary condition is satisfied.

So if Greenberg omits the necessary condition we can't say either he tells the truth or false, he's just ambiguous.

OTOH, if we assume that omitting any necessary condition he's simply meaning "for every user", then what he states is false.