shio said:
nightsurge said:
shio said:
When it's more expensive to play on a console than on a PC, you know something is wrong. |
Let me know when that happens, would you? 
Even my PC to maintain detail level of 360 games and including monitor, keyboard, gaming mouse, etc. cost a minimum of $700 when I built it last year. To keep up with the games, I have upgraded it to an HD4890 and more hard drive space and bought a larger monitor. Total cost of the PC is now well over $1000.
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You are full of crap. You can build a PC for $400 that will eat Xbox 360 for breakfast in terms of graphics. Here's what's wrong with what you said:
- You include the cost of the monitor...uuuuh, why? That's like including the cost of the HDTV in your Xbox 360 costs.
Because you HAVE to have a monitor. Unless you want to hook it up to your living room TV which most people do not want... plus then you have keyboard and mouse cables or have to buy a wireless setup which costs more and performs worse.
YOU DON'T NEED A MONITOR! You can very well play PC games on an HDTV, the choice exists. More and more people are hooking their PCs on TVs because only now are the TVs able to support higher resolutions. And you don't need wireless for it. Go back to the drawing board.
Ok so take off the monitor. Still a $450 minimum and you have to know how to build your own computer, which the majority of people do not. Also, despite what you say, people do not want their desktop computers hooked up to their HDTVs in the living room used for gaming. Families want that space for TV. The only PCs often hooked up are HTPCs. And if you don't use wirless, you have to buy USB extenders or sit really close to your HDTV since mouse cables are only 6ft long.
- You don't need to upgrade to match the graphics of the Xbox 360 (depending on your former GPU). Many of the recent Xbox 360 games are barely above the low settings of it's PC counterparts. GTA IV, for example, the graphics of the xbox 360 version are around the low settings of the PC version (confirmed by rockstar itself).
This is bull. I have CoD4 on both systems. Both look almost identical on max settings for the PC version. Only thing different is the PC has better AA/AF. You have to be running at least medium settings on most modern games for them to look as good as their console counterpart.
Dude, COD4 is a game that works even on 7 year old PCs. you probably wouldn't even need to upgrade your GPU to play COD4 as good as Xbox 360. Remember though, the Xbox 360 version has only around 640p resolution, which is nearly the lowest res on PC.
Yes, the console version has a lower resolution, but it still has better details, AA, and textures than the PC counterpart at similar resolutions.
- PC games are cheaper. Why are you only comparing the cost of the hardware but not of the software? Just last week you could've bought Mirror's Edge on PC for less than $5, Mass Effect for less than $5, L4D for less than $5, SF4 for less than $20, and god knows how many more games on PC. On average you will probably save almost $20 for each game you buy on PC instead on Xbox 360.
- You forget the cost of the online. It's free and better on PC, while on Xbox 360 you have to pay $50 yearly (or less if you can get a deal). That means you are looking to spend hundreds of dollars just so you can play online.
And the most popular game on PC is $15 a month to play... you have to pay for the experiences you want. On PC you pay per game (if that game requires a charge), while on XBL it is a flat fee of $50 (or $30-40 in my case) for an entire year for ALL GAMES which also gives you the community features accross all games, party chat, a huge on demand selection, etc. It's like renting a set top box for just $50 a year plus it provides all those smooth and well integrated features.
Dude, don't you even realise the concept of MMO?!
I don't think you have any idea the point I was making? I only commented on the MMO because it is pay to play even though there are similar free mmo experiences. You ignored the rest for a reason, me thinks
Another thing, the gaming experience is SUPERIOR ON PC. This is ENTIRELY SUBJECTIVE AND OPINION. Especially when so many games, drivers, etc. have issues that ruin the experience, but on consoles it just works right out of the box and updates/patches are pain free.
That bogus, tell me about those game breaking experiences. Name me some recently. I want to know since you seem to know all of them. Also, ask why Valve isn't allowed to release patches on Xbox Live and isn't able to give all that free content to Xbox 360 owners.
That's why it is called subjective and opinion. Every single time a new game comes out, thousands of people have issues. Tech forums are filled with people asking about drivers for the GPU to play a certain game, or why their game crashes to the desktop, etc. etc. If you don't know this, you must think that just because yours works other peoples must too? There are literally trillions of combinations of hardware and software out there. Every single game is going to have issues with at least a few thousand people based on hardware or software conflicts. I work on PCs for living, so please don't ever try to tell me what I am saying is bogus.
And what's this bogus thing you are saying about Valve not offering free content to 360 owners or allowed to release patches? I got the Left 4 Dead free content. I get updates all the time on Orange Box for TF2, and on Left 4 Dead. I think you may have misread or misinterpretted an article.
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