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ZenfoldorVGI said:
Senlis said:

lol, that is a god awful computer.  Small form factor too, which is probably why it has a weaker graphics card.  

The creator off this thread knows so little about computers, that he has to ask on a forum if he should buy a PC or a Mac.

Also, he didn't mention that he wanted a gaming computer. All he said, was he wanted some advice. He made one post. ONE post, which asked for advice on Mac VS PC. He's an ENTRY level user.....

Another thing, the computer I linked doesn't "suck" it's actually quite a machine at that price point. Around 350 bucks for Windows 7, 3gb of ram out of the box, a warranty, 2core processor running at 2.7ghz, no heat problems, low power usage, fast, reliable, and actually, a half way decent graphics card as far as integrated goes, and it'll play World of Warcraft at a fair clip according to the EXCELLENT reviews it has recieved at Newegg.....

Because, you....people....he's having to ask if he wants a PC or a Mac. He is not going to be able to upgrade his videocard. He's not going to be modding his case, and he's not going too be playing HD gaming on his PC for a price this low, because those PCs don't exist unless you build them and pirate the OS, and guess what guys, guess what. This guy CANT BUILD A PC. The small form factor might even be a plus for him. Many who bought it, enjoyed its compact size. In fact, this is a perfect office computer.

The PC I linked is a great for the dollar, it will be able to perform anything a computer can do, short of graphics intensive processing, at a very reasonable price point. It is a fantastic entry level computer. It's a great second computer, and for say, a student, it would be an ideal desktop with plenty of multimedia potential.

The OP is an ideal candidate for an entry level computer, though as I've mentioned, the computer I linked is not only quite powerful relatively, it is also very cheap. It's also very versatile with HDMI out, and a wide array of connectivity features.

The major misassumption you've made, is that I believed the PC I linked was intended for HD gaming or for modification. It obviously wasn't, and I would have been completely ignorant to recommend something like that to my target audience.

You see, I thought of all of this, before I posted. I knew, and calculated everything I've just written, in seconds, befored I decided to post my suggestion for a computer for this person. It was a great suggestion. I was actually shopping for an entry level PC for my brother over the past few weeks, so I knew this was a good choice.

How much thought did you put into your posts? Do you think that because you can read specs on newegg that I couldn't? Is that a skill, to you? Would you suggest he go with the 1600 dollar prebuilt HP? I mean, sure it has Vista, but it'll run Crysis at acceptable fps. Maybe he should build a computer like me? What parts would you suggest, because we both know, obviously, he should build one. Everyone can do that. Everyone.

This has really ground my gears.

For the record:

Win 7 home premium 64 bit

GeForce 9200 integrated

3gb ddr 2

320gb hd 7200 rpm

Athlon X2 64 bit 2-core 2.7 ghz

16x DVDr/rw

Card Reader

Optical Audio out 5.1

HDMI out

9 usb ports

recommended use: Home/Office

1 year warranty

Mouse and Keyboard included

5/5 eggs on newegg

360 dollars.

I'm not saying it's the best deal in computers,but it's a damn good entry level PC for a fair, and I believe, for a good price, but it obviously isn't going to work for current gen gaming.

Very well, maybe our assumption that he wants a gaming PC was unwarranted.  However, what about your assumption that he does not want to play games on it?  What if he bought this computer and didn't realize that it wouldn't play games because you didn't say so.

Regardless, unless space is a serious issue for this person, small form factor is a poor choice.  Larger cases are going to have better airflow, and therefore better cooling.  Also, upgrading is limited.  Assuming he doesn't know anything about computers, lets say he asked his friend to install him a new graphics card?  His friend would say 'no can do, your case sucks'.  Replacement parts are going to be more expensive also and harder to find at your average computer store (Power Supply, for example).  An equivalent computer in a bigger case would be the same price, if not cheaper.

If your assumption is correct and he wouldn't be upgrading it, why would anyone want a 64-bit OS.  Typically, the reason to get a 64-bit OS is to utilize 4 Gigs of RAM.  This computer only has 3 Gigs.  You could say it is to take advantage of a 64-bit processor, but so few programs don't support that even if it runs on Win7 64-bit.  Also, there are a lot of programs that simply do not work on 64-bit OS.

At a 360$ price point, I would be curious about the quality of the parts, especially the motherboard.  You get what you pay for.

So yea, unless you need dirt cheap and space is a serious issue where it is going, the computer sucks.  Of course, that is only my opinion.  An opinion I've formed after getting a computer science bachelors degree and working as a computer technician and computer salesman for a few years.