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steverhcp02 said:
nightsurge said:
steverhcp02 said:
nightsurge said:
I agree with you. The Zune Marketplace streaming videos just made Xbox 360 the definitive OnDemand entertainment offering in the world. I only have a 720p TV but I rented a movie and it was flawless and looked and sounded identical to my blu-ray movies at 720p. I should be getting a 1080p TV soon so I can give my updated opinion then. My internet did stutter at one point, but it was amazing how the video very smoothly transitioned between resolutions without stuttering or pausing. It jumped for all of 1 second to SD then back up to HD as my internet stabilized again after that momentary spike of traffic or whatever.

Well its all relative to your syetm. If you dont have a receiver or PS3 set to decode your audio for TrueHD or DTS or PCM it will sound the same since it is the same.

Pretty much the same for video in relationship to your viewing distance. Alot of people think their BD's will sound better on their system without knowing the reason BD's sound better is when you have a receiver or player to decode the actual HD audio so there actually isnt a difference unless your system is set up properly.

I think video quality only sees a difference if you ahve a 1080p set at the right distance in relation to screen size.

http://hd.engadget.com/2006/12/09/1080p-charted-viewing-distance-to-screen-size/

This should be taken into account, if you up your resolution from 720p to 1080p it needs to be in this range to see the difference.

You mean a PS3 will decode the audio but a standard Blu-Ray player won't?  I have my 360 and Blu-Ray player connected to my Dolby Digital 5.1 sound bar via digital optical cable.  I forget what I did, but I know I messed with some audio settings on my blu-ray player when I first got it to make sure it was outputing the correct audio.  Yeah it's a sound bar so it's not technically "true" surround sound, but I live in an apartment and my TV is only roughly 7' away give or take so it's all I needed for now.

I'm not sure if I fully agree with that chart... or maybe it's just because I'm a videophile by nature thanks to computer gaming... but I can defenitely see a huge difference in 720p to 1080p from about 10' away... and I don't need an 80" screen to do it...  I guess at about 7' away my optimal screen size for 1080p would be about 50-55"... which to me seems a little big.  I am getting a new 47" HDTV in about a week or 2 and I feel that the upgrade to 1080p on that screen will be perfect.  After all, I'm used to having 1080p on a small 24" screen and it is still very noticeably better than 720p to me at a viewing distance of about 3-4'.

If any of you have any tips on a good 120hz set that actually does true 120hz very well, let me know.  Basically I'm leaning on just getting a budget 120hz set for about $1000 and not really using the feature until necessary since 120hz really doesn't improve much in most cases and sometimes worsens things...

Some BD players decode Dolby TrueHD, in fact i think most do but some disney movies i think and others offer linear PCM and ive seen some lionsgate movies with DTS and fox as well. And i know next to nothing about sound bars but so im not sure how it would effect the audio at all but i do know one thing. When im watching a BD with Dolby TrueHD or PCM or even DTS my settingon my receiver need to change, i need to have my volume much higher because if i dont it sound too wimpy, but with it higher i can tell the difference.

Honestly though, i wouldnt even bother with audio until you have a place where you can get a nice 5 speaker set up, dont listen to magnolia best buy employees, 7 channels is useless unless your living room resembles a UFC ring.

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BRAVIA-KDL-46V5100-46-Inch-1080p/dp/B001T9N0EO/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1260207163&sr=1-9

This TV is one of the best especially for the price i think for the situation. Youve got 7 ports so no worries about if you ever get new systems or a receiver in the future. Plus the 24p cinema is a nice bonus for having BD.

The problem with 120hz though is that it doesnt do great justice and osmetimes can cause poor image quality, sort of like how some BD's have edge enhancement than kin dof washes out the image. If youre watching nascar or even football it may benefit, but for BD's or Zune on demand i dont think it would help that much to be honest, you could probably get a better tv for cheaper without it.

Also, youre right in line with 47 inches for 7-10 feet for 1080p, you should be ifne.

Another thing though, that charts kind of hard to read since they have partially fille din centers, but 3-4 feet viewing distance it says youll see a big difference between 720p and 18080p so your experience is right in line with that. and 80" screen is 1440P , i dont know if youre reading the chart wrong or just slightly exaggerating, but for 10 feet a 47 inch tv will show you a difference, the charts not scientific and obviously, as long as you feel youre seeing better quality by all means go with it.

Thank you.  I was probably reading it wrong.  I was trying to go from viewing distance line to screen size line, but it was sometimes hard to do since increments of 5 weren't solid lines all the way accross.

The way I was reading it was by the "full benefit of 1080p is visisble" line.  At a viewing distand of 10' it says an 80" screen would be required to get "full benefit".