Vexxmania said:
slowmo said:
First and foremost let me educate you on the ban situation which you seem to think you can dig out of your false facts:
http://venturebeat.com/2009/11/19/microsofts-xbox-live-chief-on-banning-modders-and-browsing-facebook-photos-on-tv/
Specifically in that interview you may want to see the part where Marc Whitten who is the general manager of Xbox Live says the following:
MW: It’s a cat and mouse game. These were people that were pirating software. We try to keep sanctity of life from a safety and anti-cheating perspective and we protect our partners. We didn’t release the number. I cannot explain to you why people would think it was a million people. It wasn’t a million people. Check the veracity of that claim. It was one news source.
Ok thats your first inaccuracy cleared up. Moving onto Bluray, I own a PS3 and have watched plenty of Blurays but I'm an enthusiast not a regular customer. The vast majority of people I speak to are perfectly happy with DVD and the shelf space assigned to DVD still backs this up. Bluray has probably a 50/50 chance of not being a niche product for now. I think Bluray could and should take over but its not me you have to convince its the vast majority of people who aren't bothered right now. Maybe in another 3-5 years when HDTV adoption is even higher it could be a success, personally speaking I don't see that affecting console sales this generation to the extent you do. You're welcome to your opinion on this but given its not massively affected the market up till now I doubt its the huge draw you think it is.
I took a slim apart for work, we needed to look at the insides as I work in a console repair centre. I don't make a habit of opening consoles for the fun of it. I don't know why you needed to be sarcastic though, bitter because you knew your last comment on watching a video was silly?
I never said the PS3 wouldn't get another price cut, you're trying to put words in my mouth yet again to offset your weak arguments. Stick to the facts of what I did say not what you think I said please. Do you think Sony can price cut again inside of 18 months, if so fair play and call me on that point!
I'm not even going to bother clicking on your links if the best you can do to try and backup your poor debate is to spread FUD about the 360 and troll on its well known issues. I don't see the relevance to our discussion, its off topic and almost certainly posted to try and get a rise from people.
I'm pretty sure I didn't write the 360's comeback relied on Natal. All I referenced was the fact I thought it would be a value bundle next year, mainly to offset the cheaper bundles that are loss leaders. Are you once again trying to put words in my mouth? Seriously, if you cannot be bothered to read my replies then don't respond at all.
What bold claim did I make with no evidence by the way? Do you want me to provide evidence of an opinion?
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Like I'm going to believe anything an employee of the same company that first claimed the RRoD was not a widespread issue says. And there are many other sites out there which have made estimates of how many 360s got banned, for example:http://topnews.ae/content/2969-ban-nearly-600000-modded-xbox-360-consoles-affects-xbox-live. Google some more if you like. Unless MS comes out with exact numbers, others will continue to estimate for them. As far as I'm concerned, this is more a conspiracy than an inaccuracy.
I'm not putting words in your mouth at all. In one of your previous posts, you said that you think the 360's comeback will rely on a Natal bundle and a price cut on the Elite.
The claim you made = "the 360 will beat the PS3 in overal sales from September '10 to the last week of December '10". Quite bold.
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Apologies for editing your post but your points on the 360 reliabilty really aren't necessary to our discussion other than your irrational hatred driving you to post crap at every opportunity.
The ONLY facts that are proven accurate on ban rates are from Microsoft, everything else is rumour and hearsay, I'm sorry but you're an idiot if you trust any other source over the ONLY people who have those figures. How can anyone estimate the number of bans?
Yes you did try and put my words in my mouth and just did so again, read my posts like I asked you to do last time please. I quoted Natal as being bundled for next year, I never ever stated it relied on it for any comeback. Sales for the HD competitors is based on price, pure and simple and that will change next year. Quote me saying a 360 comeback relied on Natal or conceed you're talking crap on this point.
If you don't understand why Sony cannot keep losing money on the PS3 then you're hopelessly deluded, which I already knew anyway. I find strange given the huge Sony fanbase on this site there isn't vast numbers of people backing up your claim Sony will keep cutting prices. Take a look at Sony's financials sometime and educate yourself so you can actually debate this issue properly.
Finally that wasn't a claim, it was a bet or prediction if you like. Doesn't look any bolder than saying the same regarding the PS3 doing the same last year now does it?
So mulitple disks now is a big issue for gaming is it? I recall installing Alone In The Dark 2 from 9 floppy disks, didn't bother me then and swapping disk occasionally certainly doesn't bother me now. You really are grasping at straws on that front. I guess your opinion in that regard though means more than mine so I must be wrong? /sarcasm
