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MontanaHatchet on 29 November 2009
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Kantor said:
SciFiBoy said:
I like Craig, Casino Royale was a great film, and I thought Quantum of Solace was pretty good too.

Yay, I was waiting for an excuse to do this.

Casino Royale:

  • Some two people were killed in the entire movie.
  • The plotline revolved around Poker.
  • No Q
  • Daniel Craig (yes, I know, whatever)
  • Boring villain
  • If Bond loses, he's funding terrorism! Oh, heavens, no! What if he broke a nail? This guy is rich enough to host a huge poker party in a five star hotel and bid $15 million, inviting some of the most powerful people in the world. He doesn't really need much more money.

But, it was written by Ian Fleming, so can't complain, I suppose.

Quantum of Solace:

Oh dear.

  • NOT written by Ian Fleming (but then quite a few of the films aren't)
  • Ridiculously over-the-top action
  • Bond kills everything that moves, for no adequately explored reason.
  • The evil supervillain this time is trying to dominate Bolivia's water supply. Oh, dear god! What could happen if he did that? It would be catastrophic! The price of water in Bolivia could go up, and some people might be a little thirsty! DISASTER! Besides, there is already a company with a monopoly of Bolivia's water supply.
  • Villain was about as charismatic as a brick wall.
  • NO GADGETS. Except something which resembles Windows 7 Touch, oh, and a camera phone which can identify people. Futuristic stuff. Who needs lame gadgets, like a laser watch, or jam trousers?

EDIT: Interesting thing to note: from personal experience, Americans love these two, and everyone else hates them.

 

Casino Royale

1. So we're not counting the guys killed at the embassy, or the main villain? Who are you counting?

2. The plotline revolved around a terrorist group, and one of their higher ups happened to be a big fan of Poker. At a certain point in the movie, he hosts a poker tournament.

3. Yeah, the emphasis was taken off cheesy gadgets. As much as I love Q, the overuse of gadgets with Brosnan made the movies much worse.

4. OMG DANIEL CRAIG WAH WAH WAH.

5. I thought the villain was fairly intimidating and calculating, and the emphasis was on a whole terrorist group, not just one person.

6. If memory serves, they were bidding with hundreds of millions of dollars. And the villain had lost that equivalent amount. You obviously didn't pay much attention to the plotline considering how much you're criticizing it.

Quantum of Solace

1. Ian Fleming only wrote so many books. What are they supposed to do, stop one of the biggest film series of all time?

2. No, not really.

3. Everything that moves tries to kill him. He's chasing after a terrorist organization, and a lot of times, the only way to survive is for him to kill the person THAT'S TRYING TO KILL HIM.

4. He was trying to control the world's supply of water, he just so happened to start in Bolivia because there was a man (who was trying to start a coup) that he knew he could screw with. And controlling the majority of a country's water supply, even if it's a small nation, is still favorable.

5. Well, yeah. He looked like a pedophile.

6. Gadgets sucked. The Connery films weren't crazy with gadgets, so the Craig films follow suit. I approve.