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Homeroids on 24 November 2009
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Joryn said:
selnor said:


Hmmm. a few points not just to you but to the person claiming to be a student of computer engineering ( the 1 millionth on the net ). There is a CPU and Ram in Natal. M$ talk about ADVANCED streaming for a reason. That advanced streaming is not available in todays USB's on PC's or any other configuration. M$ explicitly designed the 360 with that in mind. Is this what Natal is designed for? Who knows. Is it possible sure.

Also, it doesn't have to even be good enough to enhance the games that much. Remember the N64? Expansion pak that enhanced the capable resolution? Natal could simply be used to enhance all future 360 games to 1080p 60 FPs and nothing else. Instantly the games would become so crisp. That is a definate possibility, after all I refuse to believe that M$ designed a much faster USB with a different set of rules for no reason. And no it wouldnt work on PS3, as it doesnt have M$ advanced streaming USB for a start and isnt registered on the motherboard directly to the ram, CPU and GPU.  

Uggh...Ok let's see here

The N64 RAM expansion pack was built into the unit to start with and all that it changed was what some games could do with it.  It didn't suddenly make every N64 game look amazing, but it did make some games possible on the N64.  This also means that it was using a dedicated memory bus that already existed in the console and Not an external serial bus.  Ask anyone in hardware development and they'll tell you that for something like CPU to CPU interaction you don't use Serial. 

Natal may a whole other xbox built into it but it will still be limited by the interface to the console proper.  It's just not technically possible for there to be more than 480 megabits/s of data (max theoretical speed of USB 2.0) transmitted to the Xbox from Natal.  That's plenty for images/video/and control data but not enough to offload graphical performance or cpu.  Also please find the me reference you keep claiming for this "advanced speed" USB that M$ is supposedly using on the Xbox.  I've looked through the user manuals I could find and saw nothing in reference.

Natal will be an interesting user interface, but it will not make any changes beyond interface to any existing games. 

I agree :)

Back to "splitting yr userbase...

This is hardly the same level of change in the general hardware spec as what NATAL or the Wand is. Natal and the Wand are bigger paradigm shifts.

Ok, so let's do see here, looking at history. Sega CD add-on. Not a good example of how to keep all your user base happy. It split the system down the middle. Was the start of where Sega went real bad.

 

Consoles are not PC's. They don't evolve in their product cycles. At least not a lot. Adding Natal or the Wand is a bit more than "evolution". In fact, thanks to Nintendo, I have a rather presuasive argument that just came to mind. The code name for the Wii was the Nintendo Revolution. It worked for Nintendo because motion controls launched with the new platform. MS and Sony - don't try and enforce a "revolution" onto gamers using an existing platform.

I guess Sony's less revolutionary design for motion, might be safer, as far as the existing paltform goes.

If I was MS, I would launch the 720 with Natal, or just call it a day for the 360 and repackage as a new platform. By the time Natal comes out it will 5 years already. I just don't agree with how Sony and MS are trying to split their User base(s).