2 things that will keep pc gaming alive for many more years

[Kenryoku_Maxis]

shio said:

Kenryoku_Maxis said:

STEKSTAV said:
RPGs and Strategy i can agree with though. Theres basicly no Strategy games on consoles, Halo Wars maybe the only title that works okay. And as for RPGs, Consoles controls are often the main issue here. RPGs on PCs plays better in 8/10 games.

Mass Effect and Dragon Age being the recent ones that had an enhanced experience when the controls were in order.

Adventure though? Nah. Uncharted and the PS3 basicly has monopoly on that one.

The RPG market is 100x bigger on consoles simply because of Japan.  You also need to count handhelds in that since the DS is pretty much making 90% of all RPGs now.  But even if you don't count handhelds, the console market still has way more.  Ever since the mid-90s, that's always been the problem, consoles have had more content.  It wasn't always better than stuff coming out on PCs, but there was more of it.  It was in the late 90s that PCs started to decline in quality (mostly only a few good games a year) and consoles really took over.

Its not about your perception of how an RPG (or any other genre) plays.  Its about how the games sell.  Even RPGs made for PCs primarily like Fallout 3 sell better on consoles.

Also, there are strategy games on consoles.  Many of the first strategy games, such as Advance Wars/Fire Emblem and Romance of the Three Kingdoms, were on consoles.  And their series are still ongoing, with many MANY others appearing all the time, both small-time turn based strategy games based in Japan such as Utawarerumono or big time games such as Disgaea and the various Mysterious Dungeon spin-offs.  Whereas some of the PC strategy series are dying, such as Age of Empires.

The genres PCs control is FPS, MMO and Simulation.  But even then, consoles are picking away at those markets.

You have said so many wrong things I don't even.... first, there are literally HUNDREDS of RPGs coming out on PC every year, HUNDREDS!

Second, we are strictly talking about PC vs Consoles (domestic consoles). Handhelds are a different beast and doesn't come into equation. If you want to pit it with something, go do a Handhelds vs Mobilbe phones, which makes more sense.

Third, MMO is NOT a genre!! MMO is the technology! There are MMOFPS, MMOAdvs and, you guessed it, MMORPGs, which is are from the RPG GENRE! All MMORPGs are RPGs.

Fourth, PC has by far the greatest lineup of RPGs. And in recent times it has become even more evident. Let's compare the best RPGs of 2008 between platforms:

PC:
WoW: Wrath of the Lich King
Fallout 3
King's Bounty: The Legend
Mass Effect
LoTR Online: Mines of Moria
Warhammer Online
The Witcher Enhanced Edition
Mount & Blade
Neverwinter Nights 2: Storm of Zehir
Sacred 2
Atlantica Online
Everquest 2: The Shadow Odissey
Pirates of the Burning Sea

Xbox 360:
Fallout 3
Fable 2
Tales of Vesperia
Lost Odissey

PS3:
Fallout 3
Valkyria Chronicles
Eternal Sonata

Wii:
Final Fantasy Fables: Chocobo Dungeon
Monster Lab
Tales of Symphonia: DotNW

 

PC has freaking more good RPGs released in 2008 than all consoles combined. Hell just look at it:
Best 2008 RPG: Fallout 3 (I don't personally agree, but most seem to believe this)
Best 2008 MMORPG: Warhammer Online
Best 2008 RPG expansion: Wrath of the Lich King
Best SRPG: King's Bounty (even won a few GOTY awards)
Best Combat: Mount & Blade (so true, by far the most refreshing combat in years)

PC also got an improved version of Mass Effect, an improved version of The Witcher (2007 RPGOTY), a great F2P MMORPG in Atlantica Online, and a decent ARPG in Sacred 2.

Again, like Stekstav, you are confusing 'good' with 'more games'.  And your perception of good.  Secondly, you are limiting your perception to just games released in America and under one year.  Sure, I can say PC did better than consoles in one genre in one year as well.  But over the grand scheme of things, consoles are releasing WAY more games in most genres than PC.  Lastly, more awards don't always equal more sales.  I'm talking about SALES.  Not how GOOD you perceive a game to be.  And again, that hits on your limiting your view to just games released in America under one specific time frame yadda yadda.

Heck, multiple of the games you put under PC are also on the 360 (more than just Fallout 3) and many RPGs on the 360 are soon to be on the PS3, etc. etc.  Not to mention all the RPGs for Wii never released here or soon to be released like Arc Rise Fantasia, Monando, Fragile, Tales of Graces, etc.

One compounding bit of evidence you could say that makes the PC have more RPGs than consoles however is the literally thousands of small studio and independently made RPGs on PC.  Much of these are, once again, made in Japan and are either Anime or Hentai based and some making their way to handhelds.  But its up to you if you are going to count those.

Also, MMOs are considered a genre now.  I have no idea what this 'technology' nonsense is.  That's like saying 'Strategy' is a technology because it can be attributed to multiple sub-genres like tactical and real time.  MMO is a genre with multiple sub-genres.