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Kasz216 said:
twesterm said:
Kasz216 said:
twesterm said:
 

That's like calling my TV, Car, and anything else with a circuit board a PC.  No, they are different things.

It is fair to say consoles are derived from PC's but they are not PC's. 

With TVs, Cars and anything else with a circuit board... you still don't grant the original producer a "closed system right".

There is no logical reason why videogame systems should have closed system rights for a product they've sold to a consumer anymore then they should have the right to block out products they don't like through their OS.

It's an identical actual situation.

But they do have a logical reason-- they stop devices they haven't signed off on because devices like the Datel memory card results in easy piracy.

Until game consoles are officially called game computers, they have every right to close it off as much as they want.  Just like how anyone can't just make games for the 360, anyone can't just make an accessory for the 360.  You may think it's right or wrong but that doesn't matter because that's just the way it is.

So... your arguement is... it's right because it has a different name.

Really?  So if i make something that looks and acts a lot like a gun, but call it an apple it suddenly makes sense that i don't have to follow proper firearm laws?

This makes sense to you?  You would just be fine accepting the fact that there were completly different laws involving my "apple" just because it had a slightly different name and very slight difference in how it worked, but still performed the same fuctions.

Also, the easy piracy statement... how is that any different from the many devices that make PC piracy a lot easier?

You're just really make absurd arguments here and it's pretty pointless arguing at this point.  We're just going back and forth and rather than just saying I'm right, you're wrong just think about this:

Would MS have done something like this if they didn't have their massive team of incredibly high prices lawyers look into this and say they're good to go?

They did this because they know they have every legal right to.  No pointless forum arguing is going to change it, it's their network and their systems, they have every right to ban you.