Malstrom: Nintendo’s Shield & Defense = “Sustained” Disruption?

[Avinash_Tyagi]

Ail said:

Avinash_Tyagi said:

^No actually it had very few good third party titles, the only one I can think of is MH3, the others were at best niche titles with little appeal.

Actually the reason for the need for strong first party titles is the lack of quality of third parties on the Wii, as a result yeah Wii success is dependent heavily on Nintendo software.

If the third parties were to release better games on the Wii, then it wouldn't matter that Nintendo first party was weak this year, as it is that's not the case, Nintendo software is what drives Wii sales.

Wii Third party is extremely weak compared to that on the PS3 and 360.

But interestingly enough the strength of the PS360 third party has not helped that market, and as we are seeing companies like EA and the like are losing money. The reason is the evidence for why that market is dying.

Costs of games on the HD twins has greatly outpaced the size of that market, revenue is rising, but so are costs even faster, and as a result profits are dropping, and companies are dying and downsizing.  Look at EA, such a huge company with such sales, and yet its taking losses and laying people off, as are other HD market companies, its a grim forecast for them, on the other hand, say what you will about Nintendo's declining revenue, its profits were extremely healthy.

There was a lot more than MH3 released this year...

 

EA Sports Active, Conduit, Madworld, Punch Out, Dead Space Extraction,  Mario and Sonic at the Winter Games, Metroid Prime Trilogy, GH5, Rock Band Beatles,...

 

I don't get the 'if third party were to release better games excuses' seeing how Regie keeps touting how the Wii is the platform that sells the most third party software, quality hardly seems to hamper sales. Or are you suddenly doubting the words of your chief evangelist ?

 

Face it, the issue isn't quality ( maybe it is for the hardcore Wii owners on this site) but the Wii customers at large that bought Carnival Games, Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games, Rabbids go home and more of the same have never seemed to listen much to review to direct their purchase...

The real issue is those same customers have been feeling the recession and holding more on gaming purchases than traditionnal gamers..

PS : EA isn't a very good example seeing how 2009 is probably the year they invested the most in the Wii and saw overall the biggest loss...

Problem is, a lot of the game you list just didn't sell well, they were niche or not appealing, or they sold but to people who already owned the Wii.

Reggie saying that Wii sells the most third party software only tells part of the story, sure it may sell the most, but that's because there are tons of games on the Wii and a lot of Wii's out there, doesn't mean those games sell a lot, most don't and  it doesn't mean those games are good or will drive hardware, in fact most third party games are flops.

Most of the games you list are the exception, sure carnival games and Mario and Sonic sold, but a lot of party games on Wii flopped (Also Rabbids go home is a pretty good adventure platformer game)

No it has nothing to do with people holding off their purchases,  if it did, then NSMB Wii wouldn't be selling, its not just being played by hardcore gamers and it pushed a lot of hardware last week, and its going to sell a lot on Wii far more than Galaxy, proving that people aren't holding off, it has to do with quality of the games, most third party games on the Wii flop and flop hard, the games you list that did sell over a million, are the exception, not the rule.

 Saying EA invested the most in Nintendo this year is forgetting that only one of their games actually sold more than a million, even with Nintendo letting them bundle with WM+, only EA sports active broke a million, now what that says is that there are people willing to buy, if Sports active could sell over 2 million, its just that most of the third party games on the Wii just aren't very good.