Kasz216 said:
1) Your blatant stereotyping proves my point here more or less. How would you react to an American statement that the reason their is a race gap is that "Black people are lazy and thinks it's cool to be gangsta and don't study." 2) There are plenty of laws that are distinctly against Islam that aren't related to "beating your wife." For example the headscarf law. It's a law that's offense both to Islam and Women... as it's the french government telling women how they should dress. 3) Sure. The above is a good example. Look at French Sexual Harrasment laws. They are ages behind the US, UK and other Western powers. What is the definition of sexual harrasment in France? "Sexual harassment is harassment by a person based on behaviour aimed at obtaining sexual favours for his or her benefit or for that of a third person." In otherwords. Only Quid Pro Quo sexual harrasment. Stuff like hitting on a woman constantly or even trying to kiss someone in the workplace is not covered. Studies have also shown that sexual harrsament is seen soley as an aspect of sexual desire. Much like evolutionary biological opinions on rape... which are just comical. So in otherwords... if your a woman and your being sexually discriminated against... you only get to keep your job if your boss says "Sleep with me or your fired." There are virtually no cases of sexual harrasment filed in France despite the fact that they face just as much if not more discrimination in the workplace then places like the UK and US. In fact, a number of people who lost sexual harrasment cases under the ridiculious france standards were given large fines and prison sentences. In general there have been plenty of studies that show french attidues on women in the workplace are crap...
The World Orginzation Against Torture often talks about how women are mistreated in french detention centers. Even more so then other people... france having a problem there as well. Unemployment gaps between men an women places the EU 17th out of 25 in the EU in 2004. A women was denied citizenshp specifically for wearing a burka... in 2008... and it was upheld by the government. The wage gap between men and women is higher in france then the UK.
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1) Ah come on, Just watch some Hollywood movies. Their is a popular one with a teacher who is going to teach in a problem school (thought in New York). It starts with an introduction of the school. Police officers at the entrance who control the students of weapons, then you see some scenes of the school, one note that should made....80-90% of the students are Africans/mexicans etc or let me rephrase that 'not white'. Then the teacher goes to the class and met his students.. where is so far I can remember no white guy/girl in it? Maybe one?
Criminals, drug problems, problem at home....Those are his students...And when the teacher asks why they don't try to be something they just answer 'Our people have it always harder to make it' we are only good to work in shops and fabrics as an worker;...
The end of the movie concludes that the teacher can help them to get their diplome.
Then lets take an movie about a University....Hmm lets take American Pie? Possible the most popular university movie(s) of the last decennia? What do we see? 80-90% of those students are white.
Should I say now Hollywood is blatant stereotyping?
Hollywood movies are for foreigners (and probably USA citizens) more than just entertainment , they are also for them a reflection of how the society is in USA.
Go to countries like Japan ask them what they think about Africans and you can get a lot of shocking comments that I and you would name racism. Can we be shocked about it? Probably not cause the only africans they see is on televion, american/european music vids and Hollywood movies.
And the first movie vision of a problem school is probably right. And is how schools and his students (attitudes) are in high-minorty % schools in France. But what I like about the first movie is how the teacher says 'You can become something if you try'. And exactly my point. They have the chance in France many take it but many don't take it. It is not only a France problem but are problems in many Western Countries in EU.
2) How come before 2005 it was fine to wear a scarf at a school? Did you only saw Islam women complain about the law? Or did you also saw the Islam women who were happy with the law cause it gives finally the chance to be free?
3) Sadly that will not change, to think about it I didn't have heard many moslims complain about that....In fact no French women aswell. To be fair I never talked with a French women about the rights of women in her country.
