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Lost tears of Kain said:
heh kaz all rpgs have some sort of menu, look at mass effect pull up a menu to select a power O.o
I could go with that, but most dont so i dont either
Still they are all RPGS because they mostly represent the RPG element. Now i could easily see them seperating it and i have no problem seperating them further, but i can see why they dont

Yeah i know what you mean.  I just know a lot of people who like ARPGS but won't go near a more traditional turnbased RPG, while I know plenty of Dragon Warrioresq RPG fans who can't stand ARPGs.

It seems silly for them to be all of the same sub genre.  I don't think your typical RPG snob is going to have any more chance of liking an WRPG, then they are a Zelda game or sports game.  They may, they may not... but the leveling up factor i don't see mattering for the people that almost only like RPGs.

Man i can't wait to play Mass Effect though, I want to see that dialogue system in action.  I've seen something similar in a couple RPGs but it was never implemented well.