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yah there so dumb that the ps2 is the best saling console of all time, what 160 million units?, they make the best exclusives, and dont make us pay for internet twice, to play the game we just spent 60 bucks on, yah there dumb, so there loosing a little money per comsole, wow ms just started making money, take there year extra away, how far ahead of ps3 are they, not much at all, but there dumb alright