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highwaystar101 said:
ckmlb said:
Zlejedi said:
What's a tea party ?

Republicans and conservatives protesting the government for ruining America led by Republican politicians and Fox News (Fair and balanced).

A lot of these people didn't protest about Bush wasting money on Iraq and creating more big government than Clinton and bailing out the banks, but now they remembered to protest and Fox remembered that it was 'fiscally conservative'.

That's a real screw job isn't it. Fox being "Fair and balanced" pisses me off. You get people quoting Glenn Beck or Bill O'Reilly and then saying that it is a fair and balanced opinion because Fox says so. But it's really not and that escapes some people, it is about as biased as news stations can get and just because they say it isn't doesn't make it so.

As I said earlier, some people don't know why they're angry, they just are because they have been told they should be. I reckon half of those people wouldn't exist without Rupert Murdoch.

"Fox just says their not biased...but i say they are...so clearly i am rite!....look at these opinion shows they have on the air...see how they give their opinions??!? PROOF fox is teh most biased!"

Long live the meme...may it never die, may it never meet logic it cannot defy, and may it always be a trusty fallback non-argument!

Seriously...its beyond ridiculous that people still buy into this at this point.....it is pure blinding bias on your part that convinces you fox is worse.  You disagree with them more than any other network and so you view them as the biggest example of bias.  All of the networks are terrible, and none of them is discernably better or worse than the others. Period.

@CK,

Where have you been?  There have been plenty of Conservatives, Libertarians, and Liberals alike that were screaming about Bush's lack of fiscal responsibility for a long while.   The argument is absurd for that reason alone.

But it is even more absurd when you realize that the liberals who bitched about Bush's fiscal policies have no problem with Obama's which are worse by a far.  

So now you've engaged in two pointless and irrelevant arguments in the one thread.  Pointing out the stupid crap that happens in politics is one thing, but when you're being as disengenous as you have been to suggest that it is lopsided, well that is just ridiculous.  Both sides have crazy protestors, and both sides have amnesia and blinders when it comes to their party's wrongs.

But you know what, beyond being a disengenous argument your point is moot .  Let us dig up the National debt road trip video:



To recap:

Bush was going 64mph, and Obama got in the car and slammed the gas vaulting us up to 174mph.  

So when you say "Why are you only NOW worried about spending?".....

I would say I was worried even under bush, but I would also ask you if you would be worried about your friend who was going 64mph?  And then whether you would object if he suddenly slammed on the gas and got up to 174mph with the engine revving pushing to go even faster?

A lot of the outrage, especially from independants comes from this fact.  We can debate how much of the conservative/libertarian movement is amnesia VS legitimate terror at our new pace...but what you cannot do is argue that there is no good reason for the sudden alarm.  And that makes the fact that some are doing it out of amnesia completely and totally moot. 

We need to slow the hell down regardless of why people are objecting. Defending reckless fiscal policy because the other side is right for the wrong reason would make you just as petty as those who are bitching out of partisanship...in fact that is really exactly what you are doing.



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