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MikeB said:

@ Ironman

The two are very differant. Sony figured that brand name and more technical features would sell the machine...it failed.


I think one reason why the PS3 sells so well at this point is because people do have faith in the brand and first party developers.

No, it is selling so well because it has reached a good price point. plain and simple.

With regard to the PS3 feature set, they set good standards because it made sense when looking at the long run. For example the PS3 had HDMI from the start, it was added to the 360 later on, would it really have been bad to allow every 360 user to connect their HDTV through a HDMI cable for better quality / comfort?

Once again, you can have all the features in the world, but if they are something the majority of consumers will not use, and they make the console cost more than consumers are willing to pay, well, don't expect it to sell well.


Most developers complained about the lack of space available on a 6.8 GB XBox 360 disc. If the 360 had more storage multiplatform and 360 exclusives would surely have seen a big benefit.

Funny, they weren't complaining about it last gen, and multiple discs is still a viable option. Other than you, I have heard nobody say that devs are complaining.

Many developers have also spoken out that they would have wished all 360s to have come with a default harddrive to take advantage of.

As do I, but it didn't, and hey, wadda you know, they are still second place.

Technically the PS3 is just far more geared towards a long term future than the 360 was. Entry pricing has become less of an issue and 1st parties are really showing off what the technology can do. I think the high specs, extra features, etc are becoming more and more selling points.

sure but I firmly believe too much damage has been done, even some of the PS3 people are now saying the PS3 probably won't even break even this gen.

Once again qauntity doe NOT = quality.


I prefer quality. If everyone is watching the Bold & the Beautiful or Jerry Springer, still I won't.

Your loss, you are one person, not the masses of "average" consumers.

No, Bluray was not logical


Looking at Sony's businesses (HDTVs, surround audio sets, Blu-Ray business, etc), the PS2 with its at the time new DVD format, higher capacity demands for HD consoles, I think it clearly was.

Oh yes, as far as overall business was concerned, but as far as the PS3 goes, it was not. And that was the point I was making.

MS lost money on the origional Xbox because they were not trying to make money, they were trying to gain recognition and setting themselves up to reap the rewards this gen.


Microsoft already had recognition, I was a PC gamer last gen using just Windows (meh...). They bought various quality developers, including Mac games developer Bungie in 2000.

Not in console gaming. The rest of your point is moot for that very fact.

I think with the 360 Microsoft lost a lot of its reputation by keeping many of their games off Windows. PC/Mac fans had to buy unreliable failure prone consoles to play sequals to popular Microsoft published games (like Halo 3, Gears 2 and Fable 2) and to add injury to insult, now even have to pay for subscription to play online and be content with graphically subpar versions compared to gat they were used to.

...I fail to see how any of this has anything to do with the topic at hand, you are just as bad as xoj...get a life dude.



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