| ManusJustus said: The ad hominems from you only show how poor your argument is and how little you understand healthcare. Its obvious that socialized healthcare is better than America's system because, as you stated yourself, Germany can cover 90% of its population at a fraction of the cost of America's healthcare. The government needs to own and operate healthcare facitilites. Currently, America pays private hospitals to cover people, which essentially means they are writing doctors a blank check. Private hospitals routinely charge the government for unnecessary tests and for tests they never ran. If the hospital was government owned it would not have the same incentives, and if doctors were on a government salary they would have no incentive to run unnecessary tests, charge for tests they never ran, and so forth. |
Government doesn't own all hospitals in Germany. Roughly half are privately owned. Read the article I provided about German healthcare.
If you really believe that the government most own and operate the facilities, I suggest you look at the Veterans Administration (VA). They own 100% of facilities. Although they are better than medicare recipents (which are $8,000 per enrollment), they are still well above private insurance ($4,400) at approximately $7,300 per recipent in 2008.
So I am not really understanding how socalized medicine is better when it's much worse in America.
Again, to make an absolute statement based entirely on actual enrollment data:
- Germany's socialized system is very good, costing $2,060 per capita, and covers 90% of the population, or $2,300 per enrollment
- America's socialized system is very bad, costing $2,050 per capita, and covers 18% of the population, or $11,300 per enrollment
- Breaking America's socialized medicine down, using only government facilities for veterans, enrollment costs drop significantly to $7,200 per enrollment, but is still well above private insurance which is $4,400 per enrollment.
That doesn't make socialized medicine good. That makes the American system very bad.
Back from the dead, I'm afraid.
