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ManusJustus said:
mrstickball said:
ManusJustus said:


An example of this is healthcare. Not only does government provided healthcare cost less, but government healthcare is also extremely helpful for business. In Europe, a business doenst have to worry about health benefits for employees, but in America all employers pay heavily into benefits, so much so that once flagbearers of our economy like Ford cannot compete with other countries auto industries because they pay so much in health benefits and retirement.

Could you give some data to support this claim?

See the link I posted, it is a list of total healthcare funding (public and private) per country.  The United States is spending way more for healthcare than countires similar to us, like Europe.  Quality of healthcare is debatable, but no one could argue that America's healthcare is three times better than the United Kingdom (US pays three times more than they UK).

American businesses pay a large portion of their labor costs in benefits.  Ford, for example, owes around $50 billion in benefits to its employees.  Having the government provide benefits would be a simple cost cutting measure for Ford, effectively lowering its labor cost.

There are no countries similar to us.  We are far bigger then any other country out there. 

Additionally, our government already spends something like 6% of GDP on healthcare on what few people it covers.  If you think there is much savings to be had there... your mistaken.  The US government nearly spends what the UK government does per GDP on healthcare... right now.

There is a reason why the success of government programs seems to correlate with the size of the country.  The smaller your country, the better nationalized healthcare works.