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jarrod on 04 November 2009
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BladeOfGod said:

By the same token, 2009 was far and away the best year for PS3 3rd party wise as well.  RE5, SF4, Yakuza 3, Tekken 6, Tales of Vesperia, Musou Orochi Z, PES 2010, Gundam UC0081, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, Bayonetta, FFXIII,so it was a strong year for both PS3 and wii, but looks like ps3 is gonna win. your point? etc, etc.  Plus a huge pricedropnintendo had it too and complete platform remodelingnew colours for wii... (from the shell to the brand to the font even), resulting is what's essentially a platform relaunch.no, it isn't And with all that, it might even not beat out Wii's weakest year yet, the year wherePS3 is still more expenisve than the Wii  even Nintendo's president is talking publicly about how they failed in the region.  Not quite as impressive when put in context.

I'd also argue, 3rd party wise, it only looks downhill for PS3 from FFXIII.  At least Wii still has the promise of DQX, PS3's blew it's load in 2009, and it's not gonna get any better than that...  

My point was it wasn't actually Wii's strongest year (3rd party wise yes, but not in general) while it was PS3's (unquestionably).  And PS3 still might not sell more, it's basically a dead heat.  I guess that's a victory, but to me it says more about the general weakness of Japan's console market rather than the strength of PS3.  In a sense, everyone's losing while DS (and PSP to a lesser extent) wins.

And the Slim is a conscious rebranding and inherent relaunch, bottom up.  It's basically like DS Lite, PSP go or GBA SP, possibly even further given they've even redesigned the entire logo and branding. And it's worked about as well as possible for the platform.

You can probably throw out pricepoint arguments as well, Japan had no issue buying PS2 in droves at PS3's current pricepoint and Wii's (first) drop was relatively minor (though it has had some effect, basically doubling weekly sales).  Hell, if price drove things, 360 would be leading both right now.  Wii did get it's first new case color though, while we've had what, 4 for PS3 already?  I bet PS3 slim has more than 3 colors by the time Wii gets it's 3rd color.

 

BladeOfGod said:

GT5P was bundled mercilessly and was the first Prologue to even get worldwide release.  

GT5 isn't hitting 10m.  In fact, I doubt any PS3 ever game hits that benchmark (only a handful of PS1/PS2 titles did), due to a weakened userbase and most big titles being on 360 as well.

It has a lot to do with GT's crazy legs. GT games usualy sell for about 5 years. Hell, GT4 just reached 10 million couple of months ago, and the game is over 5 years old. And GT5 will reach 10 million for sure, but not in 2010 or in 2011, somewhere in 2012 or 2013. And userbase doesnt really matter sometimes. MGS4 already outsold couple of its predcessors

No it didn't, GT4 passed the 10m mark in April 2008 (10.6m to be exact, it was 9.92m in Dec 2007).  

And MGS4 is more the exception than the rule when it comes to PS2 to PS3 franchises.  Disgaea, Virtua Fighter, Musou, Gundam, Tekken, Yakuza, Winning Eleven, Mingol, Rachet & Clank, GTA, Madden, Ridge Racer, Katamari, KOF, NFS, Burnout, etc, etc... basically all these games have sold appreciably less, for various reasons (reduced userbase, multiplatform release, diminishing brand, critical response, etc).   And actually, while MGS4 matched MGS3 figures, actually didn't hit MGS2's benchmark.  The general notion that "fans will come" has been disproven time and again already, I don't expect GT5 to suddenly break the cycle...  

And offhand, bizarrely, Capcom's the only company I know of who can claim higher sales on PS3 than PS2 for most of their brands (Resident Evil, Devil May Cry, Street Fighter).