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Akvod said:
Hmm, IDK. I liked it when MS showed the Guitar Hero ads with the Arcade (the one with the little kids and the moms) as that's exactly the type of consumer that'll buy it.

If you're an "hardcore" gamer, I don't think that the arcade is attractive.

Buy the Live kit for $100 and you have a 360 + 12 months Live + 60 Gb HDD for $200...

You can't say that doesn't appeal to a hardcore gamer.