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Kasz216 on 01 November 2009
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Samus Aran said:
Kasz216 said:
Samus Aran said:

They didn't want to break that "shit" down, as you said yourself, it was scripted. The Americans wanted to bring down that statue to let the world believe they have freed Iraq.

Iraq is just a political mess like a lot of other countries in the Middle East. I see no improvement there any time soon especially when you have presidents like ahmadinejad that think it's funny to deny the Holocaust.

I really wish I could see improvement like you can when everyday I open my newspaper I see a terrorist attack on countries like Pakistan, Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq,etc

 

 

The event was scripted, for all you know, they could of wanted to do it but couldn't later until the troops allowed it for PR.  Every other fucking thing in the country got destroyed or looted because of the US doing a bad job at security.  You think a statue of their brutal opresser would still be standing otherwise?

You do know he's President of Iran right... and also he's not the "real" ruler of the country.

As for improvement.  Looking at individual attacks is your flaw.  There is going to be terrorist attacks in the middle east for... god knows how often. 

You don't measure by attacks.  You measure by frequency of attacks and by death tolls.  You don't think this stuff wasn't happening when Saddam was in power?  There was his indiscriminate killings and rebels committing terroist attacks.  (Ones the US likely supported.)

Yes, I know he's president of Iran, if you actually tried to read you would see I wasn't talking about Iraq alone anymore, but about the middle east. The death toll has only raised since America invaded Iraq.

 

Do you really think it's too hard for the people of Iraq to bring down a statue? They're not idiots you know. If you can't even bring down a statue then why would you let them run their own country lol.

 

I'm not looking at individual attacks, but at attacks by terrorist organisations. They may be individual for you, but I assure you they are not.

A) It's hard to bring down a statue that big safely.

B) Is it your suggestion that people in Iraq would rather go back to the days they were ruled by Sadam Hussein or some other dictator?  Because unlesse your answer is no, in no way was the US liberating the Iraqi's a lie.  Unless of course the US sets up a puppet government... but considering how much the new government has moved away from the US government this seems unlikely.  They're more likely to become friends with Iran then they are the US at this point.  Most of they key political figures are ones that were hiding out in Iran.

C) Terrorist orginzations will GREATLY loose their steam once the US are gone.  At least the ones like Al Queda.  Outside of that, all that will be left are the Bathists... who will be marginalized and run out of steam as time goes on.

 

All in all the Iraq war was a TERRIBLE idea.  I should know.  I was against the damn thing from the start.  I was one of very few people who was against it and who mistakenly though congress was too smart to give Bush the authority to enter Iraq.

They didn't however... there have been further mistakes since then... however i'm not so blind and idealouged enough to ignore the one positive that looks like it will come out of this whole thing.