lestatdark said:
sugarEXpress said:
Games are subjective and not biochemichal dude ... and by not approving my points you simply ignore the very true facts of WHAT DRIVES YOU TO PLAY THE GAME? You have to use Introspection to analyze games or you have to alalizy the experience of other players.
How do you want to generate genres in the film without beeing subjective? For example what makes an action film and what makes a crime movie? It's easy, what keeps you watching the movie? action scenes. This is an structural aspect. Now what keeps you watching a crime movie? Easy as well: you want to know who commited the crime. A story aspect.
The whole medium, game or movie, creates an experience that is very subjective and not one experience will be the same ...
Forget your scientific approach b/c they won't work on games. The only scientific things that could be applied to games are the phenomenoligistical science about "the feeling of what is happening" (which is not a part of science since the behaviorists won out) and anthropology.
But to answer your question both games are Strategy games. Although LKS has very many RPG elements ( making the city a character itself).
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I'm sorry, but you kinda mixed up the person whom you meant that message.
I merely tried to imply that rationalitizng genre definition to scientific terms is absurd, since if even in science there are innumerous classification methods, in arts, gaming more specifically, you cannot simply consider one scientific term to categorize games, just because you (and by you, i mean the OP) feels like it.
I don't agree with his sub-genre separation and his mixing up of games that don't have anything other than minute similarities, but that at their core are completely different.
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That is quite different from what you said in your first post . Also since when has gaming been exclusively an art? Is Hide and Seek an art? Is tic tac toe an art? Some games 'can' be art, but that doesn't mean that gaming as a whole is one. You still didn't answer my questions here btw. There is only one science for classifying things and that is Taxonomy.
It still is refined everyday, like any other science, but the basics still stand. If you are going to bother classifying anything at all, then at least make it a standard. What is the point otherwise?