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Sony also had a big hand in CD's and DVD's (though their stake in Bluray is larger then it was for DVD). So we can get over the entire idea of MS being pwned if they decide to go blu. If anything they have done a good job on slowing down bluray adaption but slowly but surely the tide has turned in bluray's favor. I don't think a digital download only console is viable at this time and more likely then not, MS's next console will include a bluray drive.