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elticker on 20 October 2009
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everdom said:
elticker said:
everdom said:
Barozi said:
elticker said:
everdom said:
elticker said:
that was expected since piracy is so huge on pc so why put dedicated servers. piracy affected pc hugely e.g. crysis is now in development for consoles and pc doesn't have almost any AAA exclusives. If piracy on pc keeps increasing you can expect the next call of duty pc version to be canceled

 

Links? Evidence? Statistics?

 

Or are you just saying what you heard from people who heard from people that base their opinions on stereotypes in an attempt to gain more support for their system of choice?

 

Oh and FYI Crysis 2 is coming to consoles because Crytek wants to liscence out Cryengine 3 to console developers so they can make lots of cash, not because of piracy.

no they did not develop crysis 2 to license cryengine 3. here is a site http://www.develop-online.net/news/32950/Crytek-never-planned-to-license-CryENGINE. I never mentioned anyhting on any other systems about what you said at the system of choice. Link ok here goes http://kotaku.com/5056532/why-no-gears-of-war-2-for-pc-well-piracy-for-one. everdom you have so much fail in what your saying. i posted links to prove that i dont guess stuff i know what i am talking about.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/52457

@ elticker: so you posted a link saying that in 2002 they didnt plan to liscence THE ORIGINAL CRYENGINE, CE2 and 3 however were made to be liscenced out and they have been several times.

 

@ both: A dev trying to account for less than expected sales can easily blame piracy, however there is no clear evidence that a pirated copy means a lost sale, in the same way that people who have dozens of DS games on R4's probably wouldnt have bought anywhere near that many in reality, because people are constrainted by money.

Have you ever wondered why the great PC developers never complain about piracy? because they realise that if you make a game that is good enough it is a non-issue.

Case and point : http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=18843


according to the article you posted there are 260 million pc gamers and i fail to see why games on pc sell less than games on consoles. that also doesnt change the fact that you said crysis 2 was developed for consoles cause they want to license cryengine 3 when they are acctually making crysis 2 on consoles due to piracy issues on pc and their game topping the charts of pirated games. Crytek is supposebly a great pc developer that pushes pc to its limit and it complains about piracy.  

Firstly: thanks for actually reading the article, youd be surprised how often people dont.

Secondly: If they were abandoning the PC entirely for Crysis 2 then the argument may hold more weight, however the fact is that crytek has already strated liscensing out CE3 to devs. As a middleware developer, the move to consoles was more about expanding their possible liscencing oppertunities, as there just isnt much drive for a PC exclusive, resource intensive engine.

article on CE3 liscening: http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=25653

yeah i was surprised when i jioned vg in march 2009 but now its almost standard that most vg users just assume what the article is about instead of reading it. i have been reading articles since march 2009 and dont bother to post much.