It is time for Shigeru Miyamoto to retire (Malstrom)

[The Ghost of RubangB]

liquidninja said:

The Ghost of RubangB said:
liquidninja, where do you and Malstrom get the batshitcrazy idea that Nintendo is moving away from creating new content, and moving towards selling content-creating tools instead of games?

There is a gigantic logical leap between Wii Music and a possible sequel.... and the other 8290357109857 games and projects Nintendo is working on, suddenly disappearing. Where are you guys getting this crazy idea?

Do you think Sony's doing the same thing? They have LittleBigPlanet and now ModNation Racers. Does that mean they're not getting Gran Turismo anymore?

1) They mostly keep reusing ideas from past Mario, Zelda and Metroid games in their sequels.

2) There is a a lot of Mario spin-off being put out by Nintendo.

3) They think User Generated Content should be the primary focus of their new games.

4) I don't think it's so crazy to think they are moving away from creating new content.

I numbered your 4 sentences and spread them apart a bit to make this easier.

1) Mario Galaxy was nothing like Sunshine or Mario 64 and is considered by many to be the most innovative 3-D platformer.  Metroid: Other M is completely new, with new gameplay, new point of view, new pacing and action, new characters, and new story.  You're right about Twilight Princess, but Miyamoto has said that was the last traditional Zelda and he's doing something crazy different next.  That game was all fanservice for Ocarina fans (it's Ocarina's only true sequel taking place in the same exact Hyrule), a sweet farewell to that era of Zelda games.  But it's the only Zelda where you TURN INTO A WOLF.  More people say that Twilight Princess was ripping off Okami than say it's a stale repeat of Wind Waker.

2) Mario IS a spin-off, and always has been.  He came from Donkey Kong.  Then he was the villain in Donkey Kong Jr.  Then suddenly he was a plumber and he had a brother and he fought monsters in your plumbing.  Then he was part of a Wrecking Crew.  Then he and his bro were "super" and ate mushrooms that made them bigger as they battled through dungeons to save a princess.  Those games were all spin-offs, and that was all on the NES.  Mario tried everything before he found his true calling in life.  But he kept trying other things.  Even back on the SNES you had Super Mario Kart and Super Mario RPG.  This is nothing new and has nothing to do with User Generated Content or Nintendo failing or Miyamoto retiring.

3) Prove it.  This is the big logical jump I'm not seeing any evidence for anywhere.  Name me any Nintendo games you can think of where you can actually say "User Generated Content is the primary focus."

4) Here is some new content from Nintendo: Nintendogs, Brain Age, Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Wii Music, Rhythm Heaven, Excitebots.  And outside of America there's Disaster and Captain Rainbow.  They're working on new franchises, creating entirely new genres, and even with their old franchises they're trying many new things.  Maybe User Generated Content will be one of their several directions.  Why would it be the only one, or even a major one?