ZenfoldorVGI said:
Gears 2 and Forza 3 both look much better than Uncharted 1 and MGS4. Trust me, MGS4's textures weren't all that. Now yes, Uncharted 2 is the console graphics king atm. So yes. If you claim you haven't seen anything "close" to a PS3 exclusive, then you haven't played Forza 3 or Gears 2. I sense a lot of hostility in this thread. For now though, Uncharted 2 looks like shit compared to some Crysis mods. However, I think GT5 might step this console gen up a notch graphically.
I'd say that the HD twins are so close to each other, it's hard to tell a difference, even at the top exclusive level. IE Forza 3 vs KZ2, ect. :P This gen so far, I'd say... Crysis > Uncharted 2 > Forza 3 > KZ2 > Gears 2 > Uncharted 1 > MGS4 > everything else |
Lame post. MGS4 looks far better than Forza 3 and Gears 2.
Its sad to see posts like this, really.
MGS4 is still only bested by Killzone 2 and uncharted 2.
You cannot compare a racing game to MGS4, there is almost _nothing_ going on in Forza 3 to merit that.
Gears 2 is the unreal 3 engine, and while YES some of the environments were more detailed, the ludacris pop-in and bland textures are far worse than what is seen in MGS4.
It makes me sick and tired when people use the same few screenshots of LEDGES in RANDOM buildings in MGS4 as comparisons of its graphics.
Take screenshots of the characters, of the main structures, of the fucking boat at the end, of rex, of the explosions?
IT just makes me tired to see people not appreciate the GAMES
I don't care about the console, its about the DEVELOPERS and the SKILLS of them.
If 90% of microsofts team didn't focus soley on unreal 3 you'd see better games.
How many first party engines do we have for the PS3?
From Softwares Demon Soul's Engine
Naughty Dog 2.0
Insomniacs Engine
Quantic Dream Proprietary Engine
Motorstorm Engine
Polyphony Digitals engine
The White-Eagle square enix engine (while on 360 as well, an engine that is designed to use the ps3s spus specifically for whatever reason counts as a PS3 engine, most devs do NOT do this.)
Gureilla Games Proprietary Engine
Team Ico Proprietary Engine
Sucker Punch Engine
God of War 3 Engine
Konami's MGS4 Engine
Level-5 and JAPANStudio's Engine
You'll notice something here, almost every first party ( and 3rd party in some cases) Have unique engines designed specifically for that hardware.
That is why PS3 games look better. It's the engines being designed for the systems and a NEW approach to software design.
With the 360 you cannot offload all of your physics etc to SPUs.
This Systematic Offloading of calculations away from the RSX to the CBE is what makes games like uncharted 2 look so good, this is not possible on the 360.
While the 360s video card is slightly better, when you program properly and take advantage of the SPUs the end result is impossible to duplicated on the 360.
Combine that with 50gig disc space on dual layered Blu-ray and you are totally blowing the 360 out of the water with stored texture sizes.
PS3 development is only going UP from here. Sucker Punches next game will be a quantic leap from what it is now.
Uncharted 3 will look significantly better.
PD's GT5 will be the most realistic looking game in history.
Show me a single game on the xbox 360 that can touch this and maintain this frame rate.
CAUTION: HUGE MGS4 spoilers, and a very sad scene.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCytmtk6Sxg&feature=related
watch in HD
