Politics and Science: Can they coexist?

[SciFiBoy]

Zucas said:

SciFiBoy said:

Edit: let me see if I can elaborate a bit here, okay, both Science and Politics have issues that they aim to address, however not all these have a definitive answer, some issues in both have conflicting ideas or theories behind them, in politics an example is the different theories on how best to run an ecenomy, in science its something like gloabal warming where some scientists look at there research and say "its affected by human activity" and others say "its not", you see the point im making? this becomes in a sense "corruptable" as politicians take sides on scientific debates too which in turn affects there policy stance(s).

Ok I think I see more of what your saying.  Yes of course there are going to be competing theories, but for the most part with science we can see a dominated theory that is "accepted" by the scientific community.  This doens't mean it is polarization but what they see to have the most evidence behind.  Doesn't mean it is correct but they have much more confidence in that than any other. 

But aside from that yes that is what I was stating in the first post was that when it comes to the science in politics it becomes more of a polarizing mechanism.  Meaning instead of discussing the affects of pollution, outcomes of stem cell research, and the human involvement in the environment we are simply polarizing different sides of the story for outside purposes.  As you can see even with competing theories in politics there is still need of discussion to see how this will eventually affect the nation as a whole.  But instead of doing that doesn't it seem like the issues become more of a campaign on a person's moral or political views rather than the actual issue. 

Even if we don't know the answer to something 100% (which we can never know) that doesn't mean we can't discuss it or play ockham's razor and discuss thereof.  But do we ever get there in politics?  Thus I go back to the heart of my question is what is infringing this scientific discussion in politics.  Is religion still playing far too large of role... politicians more worried about position... etc. 

 

what's infringing is ignorance, people dont know the science of issues and thus cant debate it, a couple of causes of this are Religion (as you mentioned) and Poor Education (or lack of Education).

the best way to address them is to remove religion from politics completley (this should be done anyway) and to make sure Education in Science is to a high standard in your country (this one can be achieved by putting more money and lesson time into Science lessons in schools)

once you address those things, ignorance levels will go down, both inside of and outside of Politics

your point of politicians worrying about there position is one of populism, my ideas should make Science more popular than Religion anyway so will address that problem too.

feel free to counter, im just giving my idea/suggestions on the matter as I understand it.