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how can you people say ati card is better then the nvidea in the ps3, ps3 graphics are much better, 360 has some good looking games to but nothing even close to killzone 2, uncharted 1 and 2 , infamous, , its clear sony has the edge on graphics, look at halo odst, the newest  just ok, nothing special, animations an faces were horrible, the outside buildings were ok. stop hating or get a pair of glasses, the graphics winner is clearly ps3, i own both and play both