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Oh btw. I tell you this. A JRPG by the name of Etrian Oddyssey has more in common with your "pen and paper" role playing games, and the first WRPGs than Oblivion(or any of the elder scrolls series for that matter) ever will. This is coming from somebody who played daggerfall before morrowind was even released. A matter of fact, it was my 1st "WRPG" or should I rephrase it as my first Computer RPG.