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mai said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:

I think the main reason some people get annoyed with the 'WRPG vs JRPG' topic constantly being brought up is people try to use that as a way to divide RPGs into two groups.  In other words, to exclude one group in topics or say one type is better than the other.  When clearly there's RPGs on both sides of the ocean being influenced by each other.  And obviously as I just showed, what some people claim makes one type of RPG superior can be found on the other side.

No, not really. Categorizing things help people to understand it, that's how human mind works.

And though DQ as well as great majority of traditional jRPGs in their core gameplay mechanics definitely more close to early wRPGs than modern wRPGs (kinda paradox, isn't it? jRPGs throughout their history were more conservative than wRPGs), but that doesn't make those terms unusable. You can't narrow down wRPGs only to their early examples, such as Wizardry and Ultima, almost 30 years of game development of wRPGs and jRPGs make those two things pretty different after all. You know, we and apes have common ancestors, but that doesn't make us similarm does it? Wizardry and Ultima serves as early ancestors to wRPGs and jRPGs, and p'n'p RPGs serves as ancestors to Wizardry, Ultima and such things as MUDs, roguelikes etc.

BTW I could name you yet another group of people who still believes that only p'n'p RPGs could be named as only and truly "role-playing experience". And though I don't like when gamers of different kinds make those elitaristic statements, there's a grain of truth in it. I won't continue, but you may look for definition of "role play" on any p'n'p RPG fan site. Very few wRPGs and couple to none jRPG have it. Why? Beacuse it's extremely hard to imitate this thing digitally, so all those kinds of RPGs despite common name are very different game experiences.

No. There are no WRPGs that are real "role play" or anything like p'n'p. 



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