Greatest scientific evidence for evolution?

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Baroque_Dude said:

ManusJustus said:

Baroque_Dude said:

ManusJustus said:

My question to you is to explain why Jesus and Paul differ so much, as to me its obvious that they had different motives.  And why would I want to close such an interesting discussion, especially when you havent addressed my points?

The discordant point here, is that I believe that their motives were compatible but you see them somewhat oposed at some spots, right?

Shouldn't their motives be the same?  Jesus (King of the Jews) wants to liberate Israel and rebuild the Kingdom of God while Paul is concerned with spreading Christianity while making peace with the Roman authority.

For me, its obvious that Paul's stance of Roman appeasement (render to Caesar what is Caesar's) is a response to Christian persecution, and Paul wants Christianity to grow and be practiced freely under the Roman Empire.  Jesus didnt take a stance of appeasement, and was executed by the Romans for his opposition to the Empire.

Interesting enough, when the Romans adopted Christianity they ran into the problem of killing their own god.  They fixed the problem though, by making the Jews responsible for his death while painting the Romans in a positive light, Pontius Pilot not wanting to execute Jesus, Pontius Pilots mother converting to Christianity (Catholic dogma not in Bible), and Roman soldiers who conducted the execution realizing their error and converting to Christianity.

You're understanding it your way, again.

Jesus accomplished God's plan in order to become the last sacrifice for our sin, and that was only meant to Him, not to Paul. Every Christian may have its own goals within the "great" goal of Christianism. Is that simple.

Moreover, Jesus acted as God in Earth in a prophetic way while Paul's mission was to spread the message.

By the way, "render to Caesar what is Caesar's" is a quote by Jesus.

So, according to your line of thinking, NINTENDO's CEO and the cleaning lady that cleans his office aren't in the same enterprise just because they have different tasks?

Which theory of atonement do you believe in?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atonement#Main_theories_in_detail

 

The Old Testament God (which should just be the same God in the new testament. Unless God changed his already perfect form and personality) always had a thing for offerings and sacrifices O.o

I just read Genesis-Joshua.

Despite the flood or the more direct killing of the Egyptians before Joshua, Joshua was the final straw. I could accept that we're not supposed to think so deeply about a world wide genocide with the flood, or even the Egyptian plagues and stuff.

But Joshua was too direct. Exterminating cities, not being allowed to sack it the first time, but being allowed to sack it the second time O.o

These type stories (the same story pretty much, with just being dfiferent versions) made me wonder about the nature of Omnibenevolence and god's Universal moral law. If he can allow exceptions and deny and allow things on his whim, what does that say about the nature of good and bad O.o

I can't imagine what Judges would be like >.<

 

There's also so many instance of God making people act in a certain way, like strengthening the Pharoh's resolve to refuse Moses. Reading it along with the Illiad and the Odyssey it's really common for these ancient gods to just take away your free will and make you do things. And for these gods to force someone to do something, and then punish them for it just makes no sense >.<