Baroque_Dude said:
Slimebeast said:
Kasz216 said:
Baroque_Dude said:
Rath said:
Baroque_Dude said:
Rath said:
@Baroque. I think it is supremely arrogant to believe that your interpretation of Christianity is the only one that is really Christian. |
I'm feel kind of bad that a serious user like you has misjudged me.
I'm not arrogant, at all, just for expressing my opinion. Don't you express yours? Does that make you arrogant? Did I say that you're arrogant because you're fighting here who believes in intelligent design (in other words, you're explaining that your opinion is better and why)? I don't agree with your opinion, but I didn't call you arrogant for this.
What you said is like: "you're arrogant because you think that your opinion is the best".
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If I said that my particular beliefs were the only true version of atheism I would indeed be being arrogant. However I am quite understandingof the fact that atheist is indeed a very broad term that covers a lot of different people and quite a range of beliefs.
I have no problem with your version of Christianity, it's your claiming that other peoples view of Christianity 'isn't really Christianity' that annoys me.
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"atheist is indeed a very broad term that covers a lot of different people and quite a range of beliefs".
Christianity isn't the same, because yes, there are some spots that are subject to discussion, but we have some elementary beliefs. It's like you saying that "I don't like when other atheists say that there's maybe some kind of god, because in that case they should call themselves agnostics, not atheists".
But ok, ok, I'm an awful arrogant, be annoyed. I can't do anything to change your mind about me because I already took an effort to explain it again, it depends on how you understand what I say.
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Christanity has some elementry beliefs NOW.
Christianity was not always so. Christanity used to be one of the most diverse religions out there until it was mainstraimed and widdled down by the romans itno an exact "Roman" way of christanity by mans hands.
Most of these core beliefs were made so then. Including creationism.
You shouldn't be so angry at people who wish to undue some of the harm the Roman empire has done to Christanity.
The only REAL core christian belief is that Jesus died for peoples sins as a martyr... a symbol of god accepting us despite us mostly using freewill to be selfish, prideful dicks.
Even Jesus' divinity wasn't a core christian principle until after the romans took over.
The community was actually split fairly even to that fact. The Divinity folks winning out mostly because it would play better with people. Rome having a fine history of demi-gods already.
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Wow, I didn't expect this from you Kasz. I didn't know u had such a distorted view of the early Church history with the Church fathers, and Christianity's first couple of hundred of years.
Someone needs to address the untrue claims you make, but I can't be bothered with it at the moment cos I'm off playing Quake Wars in a moment.
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I didn't expect that, either. O_O
Christianity is one of the most well defined "religions" in its early period. What's the New Testament? The Gospels establish a clear base and also how to interpret the Old Testament, by Jesus words and teachings. Jesus himself said that He was in the Father as the Father is in Him and many more statements that point towards his divinity. The Book of Acts is a description of the early Church and of what they believed in, the same Church that degenerated over the centuries into a "no Church", because it left some basic principles.
All the epistles describe perfectly and in detail the Christian doctrine. "Roman stuff" is far later than the biblical texts, including the New Testament.
You should read and study the Bible before talking about that. Those who think that evolution is "the truth" criticize us when we speak because you say that we don't study it before saying a word against it. This is a friendly advice. 
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I own a number of bibles and have actually read them before thanks.
"I am the father" and "the father is me" is hardly definitive... he could very well just be stating that he is speaking gods word and intentions.
I may as well say jesus said he wasn't a god when he referred to himself as "The son of man."
Additionally there are many mentions of "Sons of god" another term applied to jesus that is applied elsewhere.
