Greatest scientific evidence for evolution?

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Final-Fan said:

Baroque_Dude said:

Final-Fan said:

Baroque_Dude said:

Final-Fan said:
And at what point exactly did the Pope say it's OK to "believe in evolution"?  Because otherwise that whole part of the post falls apart.  

Well, I "believed in" highwaystar101, he mentioned that. Therefore, I replied. However, that statement, whether true or false, insn't the only one to regret to the Pope, but that's not the topic, here.

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No, in the quoted post he said nothing of the sort about what the Pope said.  Nothing of what highwaystar101 said about what the Pope said supports what you apparently got out of it.  

About the Christian "bias" if you will. I've never understood the whole evolution/big bang Christian thing anyway. Obviously there are a few problems between the two but I believe it was pope John Paul II who said something like...

"Evolution and the big bang are perfectly compatible theories with Christianity, as long as long as you accept god was the creator then why couldn't evolution and the big bang just be his methods of creation?".

I think that was severely paraphrased as it was from memory, but you get the point. If there is a god then why shouldn't these be his methods of creation? They obviously work, regardless of who or what started it.

He didn't say that the Pope said that the ideas in those theories were something Christians could put faith in, just that the theories did not contradict Christianity.  

Although now that I'm thinking about it, I'm interested in why ... no, no, I think it's best to avoid expanding this.   

Kind of messed, don't you think?
- highwaystar101 indeed quoted the Pope.
- The Pope said that both elements in discussion, here, are compatible.
- I criticized what the Pope said.
That's it.

I don't think that you and me should actually argue on that, mate. Maybe you didn't understand or I explained something not the best way at some point.

I must leave, now.
Good night.

Here's something you can read in the morning, then:  

One may embrace creationism or not, but if you call yourself a Christian (that means not only accepting Christ as your Saviour, but also accepting what He taught and He didn't change the Old Testament nor the Creation account), it's utterly stupid to believe "in" evolution. I repeat, I'm not referring to discuss if evolution is true or not, I'm pointing out that saying to be Christian and believing in evolution isn't simply compatible. If you believe in evolution, good for you, but do "Christianity" a favour and don't call yourself a Christian because you're rejecting the very base.

Some people (both Christians and atheists/agnostics) understand this very well while others seem to keep smashing their heads against a wall, by saying that is compatible. Thank you, Pope, for one more of your stellar contributions to Christianity.

Now, although a close reading reveals that you don't explicitly combine "believing IN evolution (and claiming to be Christian) is stupid" and "the Pope's quote is stupid", your post seems constructed to give that impression.  If giving that impression is both unintentional AND contrary to what you meant to say, well, whatever.  

[edit:  Plus you're contradicting yourself now.  When I asked where the Pope said it's OK to "believe in evolution", you said, "Well, I "believed in" highwaystar101, he mentioned that."  But now you are backing up and claiming you never meant to argue that, only that the Pope is wrong about evolution theory being "compatible" with Christianity, and nothing more.  If that was true you would not have said that -- it makes no sense.  

[Also, you're wrong when you say that HWS101 "quoted" the Pope; he explicitly said it was a paraphrase at best.]

You got muddled.

I explain it all in my posts. Read them again. You're the only user that is arguing with me because "you said that he said, but you said what you're now saying that you don't said, etc.". Others are arguing with me because of what I said, so I think that, although not sharing my opinion, they understood my point.

Read my posts again, I don't want to go in circles. Thank you.