Forza 3: What's on disc 2 (104 cars, 29 tracks)

[lestatdark]

First and foremost, I didn't refuse to debate any further because I think you're close minded, I did that because it is pointless to continue this discussion, I see no sense whatsoever to point out something that shall cause some confusion to other people to someone that doesn't want to understand that.
And I never said that you called other people idiots for posting their thoughts, you called people idiots for not knowing that this situation could issue ("Actually, my mentallity is one of common sense, you CANNOT complain about something you already knew was going to be a problem if you wanted extra content from games. It's hipocritical and just plain idiotic.") As I said not everyone knew of this problem, even if you think otherwise.

My opinions aren't worth more than your own, I respect your opinions and as I said countless times before (funny how you seem not to manage to read that) they are valid as well, because I also think that the public should be informed and that the consumers must do their part in researching this kind of information.

But reality doesn't work like that, and most kind of consumers doesn't think much about what they are buying other than instant gratification, be it a console, a tv, a car, or anything else, and that's not the manufacturers fault, but it is the fault of the market per se, coupled with some fault of the consumers too. In this case, it's the market's fault in the aspect of the 360 arcade was primarely marketed as a console that everyone could pick and play any game they wanted, because it was cheap and because, unlike the PS3, you didn't need to install games on the HDD, which was also the strongest selling point of the early years of the Arcade and it's the consumer's fault not to actually know that the full experience of the 360 needs a HDD to be complete.

So yeah, I think that it will be an issue for some people, while other people thinks that's a no issue are correct as well, it all comes down to the level of information people have, and neither is more correct than the other, because both are valid.