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@Ironman -My brother has recently bought a new arcade, he already had and xbox with a 120 gb HDD but it kept getting RROD, I traded my set off army boots for his old 360 but he kept the 120gb HDD, I am a very big racing sim fan and i've been looking forward to getting forza 3 for ages, but i Don't have a HDD and as i'm paying bills I can't afford to get one at the moment. but i will be getting forza, is it not unfair that I won't be able to access the whole game?? even though i have paid the same as everyone else