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darendt on 03 October 2009
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ironman said:
darendt said:
ironman said:
darendt said:
Wow, just Wow!! This thread is comical to say the least. 360 owners and there skewed view of the world. "Its ok that there are two discs, the second one isn't really needed anyway" "Arcade owners should already have a HDD, its there fault they will miss out on part of there $60 purchase"

This is complete BS, as are the idiotic installs required by crap companies like capcom for the PS3. SF needs an install to slow load times yet Uncharted 1 and 2 do not? Where are all the people that were saying a racing game will never take up 2 discs? I think this says a lot for whats to come on the 360. FF should be interesting to say the least.

Troll much? I fail to see where anybody posted that Arcade users should already have a HD or that it is their fault they will miss out of content (although, that is true, they chose not to buy a HD, however, if they have a memory card, they can install bits of the content to it. I fail to see how that is a skewed view.)

Installs are a good thing, they keep us from needing two discs. Please enlighten me as to what a better solution would be. All the people saying racing games would not come on two discs didn't think racing games would have so much content. I suggest you re-read this entire thread, then delete your fail post.

I agree, you do fail.

 

I suggest you actually read this thread, or at least the post by MAFKKA that explains my post very well. The option to your question however is BD. 1 Disc would fit the entire game....including the stuff the Arcade users dont need.



As for my reference to the 2 discs and racing games, had you been on this or any other forum and payed any attention, you would remember the back and forth about how we will never see a 2 disc game on the 360, 9GB is plenty of space.....oops, 6GB, Racing games will never fill a disc let alone be on 2 etc. etc.  The same people were praising the 360 for not having any "mandatory" installs for games because dvd is so much better than the unnecessary BD drive in the PS3. Now that 2 disc games are showing up more and more and in a racing game no less, it seems the 360 faithful all of the sudden love having 2 discs and wasting space on the HDD to install the second disc. Or there memory card that they must now buy as well if they don't want a HDD.

MAFKKA's post was as full of fail as yours was my friend. Explain to me why some PS3 games also need installs in order to run a game THAT IS ON BR???

I was not around for the whole 2 disc debate, and if I were I would not have entered into it because it is a pointless argument. However, you have some MORE fail in your last paragraph, the second disc is NOT a manditory install, the BR drive is a luxury that IS unecesary, and IS partially to blame for why the PS3 was priced so high at launch, and as a symptom of the price, has not been selling as well as it's compeditors until the latest price drop. Most two disc games do NOT require an install, just a slightly annoying disc swap. Thirdly, the second disc "wastes" less than 2 gigs, and if you really want to play that content, it is not a waste at all. That's like saying GT5 is a waste of BR disc space...it's just plain stupid. Lastly, you can also install a portion unto your system memory if you MUST play the content. Like I said, it's completely optional.

Look dude, my point is that if you want to play the game you paid for you have to install the second disc. You bought the game with both discs, I would imagine you would want to play the entire game. As for the installs on the PS3, I agree it is a bad practice and a fail on the developers part. It is by no means something that is needed as Naughty dog has proved. The need for 2+ discs for 360 however is needed for this game and many others going forward. Games only get bigger. Your logic about it being optional is typical denial nonsense. You bought a game, you should be able to play the entire game without buying an add on. Its as simple as that. Thats why FF came with a HDD for PS2 and other games that require a peripheral come with them. Maybe the answer is for Turn 10 or M$ to put a memory card in each game.