stof said:
Now that is quite the damning claim. So I thought I'd check to see what Moore has to say about it. Fortunately, used to being attacked (both rightly and wrongly) Moore does a lot of fact verifying even after his films are released. And this was a claim he dealt with, including the full transcript of the speech. I'm afraid that Mr. Moore's claim isn't false. Yours is. http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/wackoattacko/ Here's his response with the video to the clip in his film. you'll notice a few things. First you'll notice that his clothes don't actually change at all. And while the speech is editied, it's merely to save time, as you can see from the full transcript provided here http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/wackoattacko/heston.php The very last part of his video speech isn't in the transcript, but he's still wearing the same clothes, and it's the part that sounds more like a farewell than his actual speech (and isn't the hateful part at all) The second thing you'll notice in both the video and the transcript is that the speech is undeniably in Denver and undeniably just after the tragedy. He applauds the courage of those that came, talks of the Mayor of Denver's letter telling him not to come, and the full transcript has him apologizing for the lack of festivities and says they all share the horror of what happened in Littleton. If you want to state that Moore decided to write a ficticious speech for his fact check website, that's pretty far out there. And it still doesn't address the video in his film, which is most certainly what he claims it to be. The notion that it was in fact multiple speeches edited together from an entirely different place is the false claim in this case, not Moore's.
Ok. Where's the next boldfaced lie, lie by omission or dishonest spin? |
No. He's still actually wrong there. You aren't reading his words... which is really odd for someone like you.
Read the spin in his "explination"
with my words, "a big pro-gun rally," every word out of Charlton Heston's mouth was uttered right there in Denver, just 10 days after the Columbine tragedy.
In otherwords. It WASN'T a big pro gun rally. He never depends the point it was, and instead says it was simply because that is what he said. It wasn't a rally. Infact they canceled all they're rallys. These was a voters meeting they had to have... by New York law.
Also you know. Compare what moore took vs the actual speech.
http://www.hardylaw.net/Bowlingtranscript.html
I mean hell he ends one cut at "I said to the mayor" Then picks it up with a TOTALLY different line of the speech... that wasn't directed at the mayor! Heston didn't say "I said to the Mayor this is our country, as Americans we're free to travel wherever we want in our broad land. "
That is a broad lie and the transcript actually proves it... that line was too newspapers. So yeah.
As for the clip preceding the Denver speech, when Heston proclaims "from my cold dead hands," this appears as Heston is being introduced in narration. It is Heston's most well-recognized NRA image – hoisting the rifle overhead as he makes his proclamation, as he has done at virtually every political appearance on behalf of the NRA (before and since Columbine). I have merely re-broadcast an image supplied to us by a Denver TV station,
Once agian. Something he got from a Denver TV station. Not from that meeting... never said he got it from that meeting... but instead a TV image from something else completly. From a speech 1 year after columbine. Even though he cuts it as if it's directed at them... and you know. His clothes change there.
