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el_rika said:
What's the point of this discussion ?

Every MGS game can be beat in less that 2 hours, hell, most games out there can be beat in less than two hours if you know what you are doing.
For example i can beat The End in MGS3 in about two minutes normal kill and under 5 minutes stamina kill (i can kill Crying Wolf in under 4 minutes stamina kill as well). That doesn't mean that the average player will do it too. Quite the contrary, as it is known as one of the longest battles in gaming...unless you know what you are doing...

MGS(4) is just as a "2 hours game" as Super Mario 64 is a "15 minutes game" (you can beat it in 15 minutes you know...).

Very well put.  Now here is where the arguments should end.