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Well damage was just unveiled now, and it's raw so it's clearly new. It's also really odd to withhold from even hinting at a release date in the biggest gaming event of the year. Why the fear of commitment? From my understanding this game was also started on before Forza 3 was, yet there is nothing in gran turismo 5 to warrant all the extra time, before and after forza's development time.

I've always loved Gran turismo. It's the cream of the crop in terms of simulators but I just feel like PD is being cheap, a little dissappointing, they are very well respected.

I'm gonna pick up both of them just because they both seem amazingly good. I can't say any game is better than the other right now though. Maybe when ive played both full games on my systems.