starcraft said:
SciFiBoy said:
starcraft said:
Great, name calling. You're getting more mature about this by the second.
Every single idea you have come up with fundamentally ignores the fact that though the UK could have said no like you said, it actually said YES!!! New Labour is definitely left wing by Tory standards. They may not be as left wing as you'd like, but either way they went to war in your name. In a democracy you wear the good and the bad decisions your government makes. And then you try to make the best of them. If cutting and running on a situation you helped create at the expense of millions of poverty stricken and war-torn people you plunged into misery is your idea of progression, then that's another story altogether. That makes you heartless rather than ignorant.
I'm sorry by the way. What power is it the Royal Family has that offends you? Did you read what I wrote? Even ignoring the MASSIVE trade, tourism and prestige benefits the Royal Family brings to the UK every year (I believe that between them they engage in some 3000 meetings and the like every year), the UK Treasury PROFITS to the tune of ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION POUNDS OR MORE EVERY YEAR from the Royal Family's estate. In other words, even in directly tangible terms the people of the UK MAKE money from the royal family rather than losing it. |
@ bolded - okay, half of that is just designed as flame bait, so please stop, also, if you read my posts, you would know one issue i have with the war is the fact that in all likelyhood we wont be able to make the best of the situation, in fact, we may even leave the country just to see it detireorate once more when we leave, its a conflict that neither the empire or USSR could win, how you think we can is beyond me.
@ italics - i think you over exagerrate all of those things stupidly, not to mention we can easily replace that with other things, new diplomats, trade negotiators, etc, prestige? who cares, its 2009 not 1609, surely its based on things other than the monarchy by now, if not who cares what people think about us on that count, i dont, even if we do make money from them (source btw?), id rather get it from something more worthwhile than a few useless aristocrats.
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I have read your posts, and you have many issues with the war. But progress has been made against the Taliban, and even the recent election's critics are only arguing about around 20% of the vote. I believe the government would have won a majority even with a reasonable shift in that portion of the vote yes? As someone already pointed out to you, the USSR's war with Afgahnistan was something of an unpublicised Vietnam. The West backed the Afgahni's. Even if they hadn't, this is entirely different. We are not at war with Afghanistan, we are at war IN Afgahnistan. It is not a matter of defeating the Taliban, it is a matter of ensuring that the Afgahn government is stronger than the Taliban. Leaving prior to that will end in a bloodbath.
What am I overexaggerating? The UK DOES have other officials to laud it's investment and trade credentials. But it also has something no other country has in it's high profile, internationally recognised Monarchy. Why not have both?
As for sources on the ENORMOUS income the Royal Family generates for the UK taxpayer ASIDE from all of their input into trade and investment generation:
http://talent-talk.com/2008/07/human-capital-uk-royal-family/
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