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CGI-Quality said:
Hyruken said:
CGI-Quality said:
Hyruken said:
Easy

From a racing fan perspective = Forza 3

From a gaming fan perspective = Forza 3

Gran Turismo series has been crap since 2001. Any real racing fan will tell you that.

Joke post? And you claim that I talk bullocks........right......

OT: GT5 is a guarantee, but Forza 3 is looking more and more like a future purchase. I was really turned off by Forza 2 (loved Forza 1), so I'll see how this one turns out.


Not at all a joke post.

I am a massive racing fan and have played them all. Used to play Gran Turismo for days and days. Know the tracks like the back of my ass etc etc.

Any real racing fan knows that Gran Turismo A Spec is/was the best GT game to date. The game brought the racing simulation genre into what we see today. The game got amazing reviews too scoring 95% on metacritic. That was in 2001.

Since then the series has not done aswell review wise. From a gaming point of view it was limited and for a game known for having the customization options available to you that was a let down. After that we got Pro-logue which was let's be honest here poor, scoring 70% on metacritic. After that GT4 which was far better then that but not really any different from A spec. At that point in time (2005) we had the 1st Forza game. As i mentioned before any real racing fan will tell you Forza was better then GT4. The sheer number of customization options as well as having better graphics, and more realistic driving gameplay made it better. Reviews wise Forza got 92% and GT4 got 89%, so the critics agree. Then we had GT5: Prologue. A laughable addition to the racing simulation world. A game that before hand had tried to dazzle with amazing videos of how great it looked, how ironic that it would then turn out to not be anything like it. Forza 2 put that game in it's place by getting 90% score compared to 80% on metacritic.

So as i said, from a racing game fans point of view Forza has been the better series. No GT game has reached a 90% score since 2001.

Just because it sell's more does not make it the better game.

Funny, that's what I always say. Doesn't matter though, you're initial post was worded in absolute, making it your OPINION, not a fact. From a gamer's perspective, you claim "REAL racing fans" think GT has been crap since 2001. Got news for ya, that's BS. Why should that be taken seriously?

Some of my friends think Killzone 2 STOMPS Halo 3 into the ground. Does that make it factual too?

 


Simple. Because racing fans are the ones who drive the Forza community. They are the people who tell them what they like and dislike. They make the games based off what the community says. If you go on that community you will find they do not see it as a GT vs Forza thing like you see on this website, they see it simply as trying to make the best most realistic driving experience known to gamers. In GT that is limited due to contractual reasons such as before the damage on cars. Or the way a car would react when hitting another car, you can play GT's corners by using the cars in front as bumper cars, again not very realistic. You do that in Forza and you will both wipe out and most likely fook your car up to the point you will not be as competative.

Plus leagues/events/tournaments use Forza instead of GT.

Factual means being able to back up claims with facts. Metacritic is a source of all the reviews out in the planet. As i stated Forza has beaten Gran Turismo's reviews since they have been available. That means those people who are paid to play games and play them all think Forza is better too. I think that is pretty conclusive evidence.....

If your friend prefer's Killzone to Halo then that is his opinion. Im basing my opinion on my own experiences as an amateur racing driver and a avid gamer, which are backed up by the gaming websites/magazines. Their opinion seems on par with mine.