XxXProphecyXxX said:
WOW....thx for this vid bro I'm going to save it....you know just in case I encounter sum1 who needs to see factual evidence. |
That's nice and all, but it still is no evidence for better graphics in games.. Such an image is simply read and output. No real-time rendering comes into play, and the graphics card is not stressed at all. The difference is that the PS3 outputs the image directly, and the X360 uses a scaler. The X360 wasn't designed to output 1080p. The first games didn't support it, but only 1080i. I think you all remember that. And the reason was that it wasn't strong enough for it anyway. Microsoft never pretended the X360 was powerful enough to do so, unlike Sony..
In any case, the PS3 is better at multi-media stuff, and that includes pictures. And besides that, you wouldn't notice the difference if you don't go up close to see the pixels on your tv, or you sit like 20 inches away.. However, the scaler of the X360 has been improved on the software side and they added 1080p support. This support has only been focused on games, so that games can upscale to 1080p, in better quality than the average tv. Images and other media are still put out in 720p or 1080i, and scaled to 1080p, thus you get what's been shown in the video. For games, neither the X360 nor the PS3 are powerful enough to render natively @ 1080p. That means, they both scale. In some games the PS3 doesn't scale to 1080p at all.. And since this topic is about RENDERING graphics, that test this guy did, is not relevant.. If you want relevance, go to the Face-Offs at Eurogamer..
BladeOfGod said:
again, where did i said one system is more POWERFULL than the other???? All i said up there is that i will believe 360 has equal graphics like the PS3 wheh i see the game on 360 that looks better than KZ2 and U2. Better graphics doesnt always means that the system is more powerfull (although in most cases it does) |
Let me explain... You said, "i will believe that 360 can do things like PS3 when i see the game on 360 that looks better than U2 and KZ2". That means, you do not believe the X360 is able to put out graphics like the PS3 does. Until the X360 shows a game better than U2 or KZ2, you will believe that.. Now, what's so wrong with drawing the conclusion that you think the X360 can't keep up with the PS3 on graphical output aka graphical power? Note your last sentence which I discuss on the last paragraph in this post to support my conclusion.
For the next part: "All i said up there is that i will believe 360 has equal graphics like the PS3 wheh i see the game on 360 that looks better than KZ2 and U2." This might be nitpicky from my side but, when/if the X360 surpasses the PS3, then it is equal? That doesn't seem logical.. It seems you would never say the X360 could produce better graphics than the PS3, even if it happens.
And lastly: "Better graphics doesnt always means that the system is more powerfull (although in most cases it does)". Define graphics... If by graphics you mean, the image that is the most pleasant to your eyes, then it simply doesn't mean that system is more powerful. And in most cases it isn't so.. Let's take uncharted 2. Naughty Dog will probably NEVER program on the X360. We all know they are very talented programmers, because they are putting awesome graphics out of a relatively weak system (compared to a current gamer's PC or the power of current graphics cards). They put out a game that looks better than anything on the X360, but what most people forget is that it also looks better than anything on the PS3 itself. That means, they surpassed graphics on BOTH systems, not just the X360. The most logical conclusion to draw out of this is that they are very capable of optimizing for a specific system. Since they will never work/develop on the X360, there is no reference to which system is more powerful.. The closest we can get to it is when a new engine is made with both systems in mind, like CryEngine3, or Chrome Engine 4 etc. But then we instantly get the PS3 fanboys bragging about their exclusives, and saying multi-plats are not valid because the X360 holds the PS3 back, even when most games on the PS3 are inferior... See the stupidity? (I'm not calling you stupid, it's a general statement..) Whatever... But you can't use exclusives as a reference. Especially since the games on the X360 have a lack of dedicated engines, and games are also developed in a much shorter time on average..
I hope some people in these topics start to understand this because I'm getting tired of repeating the same thing over and over...
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