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twesterm said:
Solid_Raiden said:
twesterm said:
kerrak said:
My comment is not about Halo but about Edge.
I know reviews are opinions. Anyway, for those that think they are valid reviewers here are some numbers:
Exclusive full retail games on both ps3 and x360 amongst 100 best metacritic scores. Both consoles have 12 exclusives.
I will compare Metacritic average score with Edge score.

Games "favoured" by Edge (Edge > Metacritic by more than 5%):
360 3: Halo3, PGR3, HaloODST
PS3 1: LitlleBigPlanet

Games where Edge gives roughly the same score as Meta (-5%/+5% deviations)
PS3 2 : Motorstorm , Singstar
360 6 : PGR3, L4D, FableII, FM2, GeOW2, Crackdown

Games downscored by Edge (-15% to -5% of Metacritic score)
PS3 4 : Uncharted, R&C ToD, Motorstorm PR, MGS4
360 2 : TomClancy GRAW, GeOW

Games trashed by Edge (-25% to -15% of Metacritic score)
PS3 4 : Infamous, Valkyria Chronicles, Resistance, Killzone 2
360 1 : Mass Effect

Games despised by Edge (-35% to -25% of Metacritic score)
PS3 1 : Resistance 2
360 0

Adding all % differences to Metacritic, Ps3 gets -157%, 360 gets -33%, so on average PS3 gets -13,1% while 360 gets -2,7%.

Not only this, if you take a close look at what were the specific games downscored things are even more biased, as some ps3 platform defining heavy hitters are treated the worst.
For you as a gamer to take their word as an independent/unbiased magazine.

I'm curious, what would happen if you did the same thing to Eurogamer?  I actually asked someone about Edge and from what I gather they're tough on games just like Eurogamer is. 

I imagine that big difference is due to a mixture of two things:

  1. they're tough on games
  2. opinions are opinions are opinions.

and if you did the same thing with Eurogamer you would probably see something pretty close just because they are so much harder.

If they were just "harder" on games then it would show it across the board. Unless of course your suggesting that everyone else is just too "light" on ps3 games while everyone else is much harder on 360 games. Otherwise no matter how you cut it, it's inconsistant. They are close or above with most 360 titles while consistantly lower on ps3 titles. How is that consistant in any way other then that they are consitantly chewing  up and spitting out ps3 titles while enjoying 360 ones. And that's not something to be consistant at. That's consistantly being a 360 fan and bashing the other console if anything.

Most of those games you listed I'm sure you expect to get between a 9 and 10.  A bad game (or even a game that just doesn't deserve that score but still good) isn't automatically an 8, it's just something else so that variation is meaningless.

Lets just pretend that Awesome Exlclusive VII for the PS3 and Bodacious Exclusive IV for the 360 both have a 9 on metacritic.  Edge reviews them and gives Awesome Exlclusive VII a 7.5 while giving Bodacious Exlclusive IV an 8.5

According to you, that means Edge is automatically biased against the PS3 and both should either get a 9 or an 8.5 or just the same score when in reality they thought one game was a 7.5 and the other was an 8.5.

Do you see what I'm getting at?  They're different games so they can get different scores.

Just to be Devil's Advocate, while of course two seperate games can get different scores, if those scores are inconsistent with a general set of scores then it does raise questions about the scoring, particularly if you take the view that, opinions or no, they are opinions from supposed 'experts' on a common topic and should show a relative degree of consistency - i.e. either the lighting is great or its not, it can't be both.  Either the AI is good or its not, it can't be both - and so on.

As an analogy, if a film get's consistently praised in 90% of reputable reviews for having a good script, and one review site says the script is bad, you can see it as just another opinion, or you can wonder as to why?  Does that reviewer have weaker grasp of scriptwriting theory?  Did they not like the film particularly and let this influence their view on the script?  and so on.  The evidence would definately imply that there is reason to be cautious of the single poor opinoin of the script vs the universal acclaim.

Rather than just moaning, which I agree with everyone is a pain, the post on Edge vs metacritic averages is interesting to me because it appears to be factual, based on real data, and it clearly appears to show that, on average, a 360 title will review closer to or above the metacritic average than a PS3 title, which certainly does imply a bias.

Of course, that bias could be accidental.  I hate to sound elitist, but I don't really hold game reviewers on the whole as particularly 'expert' on game mechanics, etc.  and it may be no more than the PS3 reviewer is simply being harsher than the 360 reviewer, who really likes the 360 titles and his enjoyment reduces the percieved impact of any flaws.

But clearly, there is a skew there - if the shown data is correct.  I hate to actually pick up on this, as I normally really dislike the whole 'they're bought off by MS, etc' tinfoil hat nonsense.  But this analysis does show a skew.  Of course it could just be taste - that can't be discounted.  The reviewer may have genuinely felt KZ2 was simply average (to take the obvious example) while ODST is pretty stellar.

What I'd really be interested to see is a similar analysis for all major review sites / sources to see if skews are fairly common and chance over time - i.e. it is probably just different tastes, etc. - or whether only a few sites have a noticable skew from others.

 

 



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