rocketpig said:
Sqrl said:
As far as the not proving anything that wasn't focused at you as an attack but rather at Lost who seemed to be taking your argument as gospel. Not sure why you really felt the need to respond to it unless you thought it was a negative remark but considering the rest of what I said I don't see how you could have taken it that way. If anything my comments about your argument were positive even if not in total agreement. As for your last paragraph I tend to agree that they have turned a corner in NA, but do you really think that their current 130-150k a week number is sustainable? I certainly don't and I would be beyond shocked if it didn't return to below 70k weekly starting next year. For now it will likely stay at a fairly high level throughout the holidays as many folks pick up a 360 & Halo 3 for X-mas. As it stands right now with the week of the 27th/28th wrapped up the 360 needs to sell 3.26m consoles over Nov/Dec to break 16m this year. That isn't the same as last year but rather a 16% increase over last year's 2.825m (approx), thats more than a mentionable difference. Now is it a doable number? Of course it is, I never ruled it out. But my current prediction after looking over this new week of info will probably see the 360 selling about the same as last year +/- 200k which would be in the neighborhood of 15.36m to 15.76m. I think all of that constitutes more than a legit line of reasoning whether you agree with it or not is up to you but to say that I "have no brain" because of my prediction is going a little far and is definitely not the kind of rhetoric I expect from a mod in a debate of ideas based almost entirely in opinion, particularly when it was unprovoked. Its just as easy for my to claim that "Anyone who thinks the 360 will sell more than 8 consoles this holiday is an idiot!". But as you know a strong proclamation of one's certainty is not a proclamation of fact. In any case, I will conclude this by saying what I have said in another post recently. I am not 100% accurate with my predictions and I never made a claim that I was. If folks want to debate it a bit, I am glad to join in. But I don't really feel the need to be involved in a debate where the other person is going to set hard fast limits on what I am allowed to say/think/post and then if/when I deviate from their prescribed box of operation be insulted for it. |
For the sake of brevity, I cut out parts of the post. No need to get so upset about my comments Sqrl, they were a good-natured poke at your predictions. I respect you as a poster and think you have well-articulated arguments. I didn't mean to insult you and sometimes intent is lost over the Intraweb. Anyway, we'll have to agree to disagree on Nov-Dec sales. I think the 360 will outperform its 2006 numbers simply because of Halo. You know that there are still loads of parents out there who couldn't afford to buy their children a $350 console and $60 game in September; over the holidays, that will change and Halo will continue to push units until 2008. As for the 360 holding 100k+ weekly next year, I'll agree that it won't happen. But I do believe that we'll see improved sales over 2007. How much improved? I don't really know. And BTW, you can post whatever you want; I have yet to even reprimand a poster (other than the occassional "stop trolling" post). I'm not the type to tell someone what they can and cannot think, though I will argue with them if I disagree. I think you're confusing me with other admins. :D |
The only part that really bothered me was the suggestion of a minimum guess. The rest of the stuff about "not understanding why you brought up ____" was genuinely not understanding where you were going with it.
I'm fine with an "agree to disagree" approach, someone's gotta be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time if it was me and I doubt it would be your first time either =P But just to be clear I did say I think Halo 3 will continue to be a factor at least through the holiday, possibly further but at least that long.
I never meant to imply you would ban folks for saying stuff, just that you were placing labels on folks who went below a pre-set line and it does serve as a deterrant for people adding in their predictions...especially when the name is in red. But I would have been beyond shocked if you had utilized mod powers to enforce it, I like to think I have a better read on your personality than that. And I honestly wouldn't expect anything like that from you.
